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Old 09-11-2016, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jobberone
PS: Thanks all. What a great place.

@87crewdually that tranny will have to live without that spring and I will have to hope nothing critical fails on the way to the W Coast then from Hilo to Kailua Kona. I couldn't see where it came from.
Copy that. Safe travels.
 
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:21 AM
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Well, I finally got to putting on the new pan I bought from Ed in Dec 2015. I ordered the full upgrade kit with solenoids, filter, HD pan. On a side note for future ref...looking at the link to DieselHub in regard to changing the solenoids it shows a forward clutch orifice that will fall out when removing the SB. Damned if I didn't look around the shop floor, trash cans, rags I used to clean up for that damn thing! After searching for a good 20 minutes decided to turn to the forums and found that Ford did away with the "washer" and started using a "bolt" type in 2005. Got back under the truck with a few pics and to my amazement the orifice bolt was still there! I could have sworn the washer type was up there when I removed the SB but now have to tell myself I was confusing reality with the pics I studied before tearing it apart.

I was not comfortable with the AM filter so I ordered a Motorcraft from Amazon @ $40. Wasn't until I torqued the SB and almost done with the job that I opened the filter from it's 2 bags and found the screen ripped! Man was I mad as hell. Called the LD and he had 2 of them but I was stuck in the next town over. Had my GF go by and he gave her the filter (I will go by tomorrow a.m. and pay him for it).

So 16 quarts of LV later and a drive home and it's all done.
 
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Another oic of the beast of a pan and also found out why these trucks are so expensive (compared to other makes)...found gold in the frame welds while I was down there!

Also felt shifts were way smoother on the 20 mile drive home.
 
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Nice pics. Glad to hear it was a success.
What's the patchwork on the oil pan with JB Weld or the like?
Never seen such artwork before!
 
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:50 AM
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Nice pics. Glad to hear it was a success.
What's the patchwork on the oil pan with JB Weld or the like?
Never seen such artwork before!
Yeah I saw that too -- first I thought magnets, but then if you look closer I think they are heating pads...
 
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:59 AM
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Yes, ProHeat heating pads. They use half the amps of the block heater and heat very fast. I just put them on, total 500w on the oil pan and have another 125w for the trans I was waiting to put on for the new pan. They will get another coat of Right Stuff around the perimeter which will clean up the "artwork". Did a 1 hour test, oil was at 76*, after 1 hour it was at 160*. The 1024 on the oil pan and the 156 model for the trans.

http://www.proheatproducts.com/
 
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:54 PM
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Quick followup.

Despite running the truck at operating temps for awhile once I put a heavy load (13,000lb boat) behind the truck I found leaking around the reused pan gasket. Since I had a 2700 mile trip ahead of me I decided to replace the gasket. Already on the road so found the nearest dealer and had the pan gasket replaced.

The new gasket leaked so off it came and another gasket with 'grey' silicone sealant around the pan bolts fixed the problem. I did not use sealant around the pan bolts so not sure it that was the problem and/or the gasket was the problem.

My takeaway: 1. don't reuse the pan gasket. 2. Load the tranny/truck before declaring the job over. 3. Use sealant around the bolts.
 
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Old 10-28-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rotun
Well, I finally got to putting on the new pan I bought from Ed in Dec 2015. I ordered the full upgrade kit with solenoids, filter, HD pan.
Can someone please explain to a noob what Ed's full upgrade kit does for you? Is it mostly about quicker shifts?

BTW- I have the 2003-2007 version of that same pan. Bought it last fall before I knew of the 6.4 filter/pan mod. Probably a long shot considering the info in this thread, but if anyone wants it, I'll trade for a 6.4L pan or the cost of one.
 
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:34 AM
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Preventive measures via modded solenoids and better filtering to help avoid sticking solenoids which can result in clutch damage.
 
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:50 AM
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I guess I should rephrase my question. What do the solenoids do for you?
 
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And so my mods list grows again. Thanks for the info...I think.
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
That's a bad assumption. The newer 08 internal filter is a smaller micron filter than the older external filter.


Mark, can you provide documentation to prove this statement? Not picking a fight but I have found little to no documentation to support this suggestion. I have found some info suggestion the TP roll down to 2 microns from the NTZ website but nothing concrete.
 
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Companies tend not to supply those details to the open market.

I'll take the man at his word.

And then again, no one forces us do do the change.
 
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Mark, can you provide documentation to prove this statement?
No, I can't. I stated what I was told when I worked there. I had no reason to not believe them, it was an internal technical conference where we were discussing upcoming changes.

You're welcome to believe it or not believe it. It doesn't matter to me either way.
 


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