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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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I've been pushing it around since then, I was honestly gonna give it to Goodwill for electronics recycling so if you want it, thank you for taking it from me.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 11:45 PM
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You will only get to measure power on that pink wire when the Fuel Pump Relay is energized. You can use the EEC-IV test connector to turn on the pumps. Or run the truck.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 04:40 AM
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Yes - I read this. I'm just avoiding the inevitable, I suppose. I replaced the ECM when I rebuilt the engine. I'm not certain they gave me the correct one. Having to replace it again irks me, but I want to be certain they give me the correct ECM this time around. How can I be certain?


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As stated above the clock in the computer must run for the fuel pump to stop after one second and the fuel injectors to start firing.
No clock then the fuel pump runs and the fuel injectors do not fire.

Starting up when the fuel pumps stop running is the clue here.
Change the computer.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 06:56 AM
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Yes - I read this. I'm just avoiding the inevitable, I suppose. I replaced the ECM when I rebuilt the engine. I'm not certain they gave me the correct one. Having to replace it again irks me, but I want to be certain they give me the correct ECM this time around. How can I be certain?
If you can find the Calibration Code, Gary Lewis will help you identify your ECA. Might be found on a sticker on you valve cover, some folks have found it on the passenger side valve cover.

More to your story I see, yeah, not capturing your original codes from your original ECA can be an issue. A lot of the 85 5.0L computers out there are for the 2wd, AT, single tank, low altitude models.

Why did you replace your ECA the first time?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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Unfortunately, I cannot use the test connector to run the pumps. When I connect the jumper wire, I get nothing. You may recall I get no readings at all when I connect my code reader to the connectors. I have not figured out why and at this point, feel at a loss to do so. I am considering purchasing a new harness such as the Painless Performance 60511 but am not it is the correct harness.

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You will only get to measure power on that pink wire when the Fuel Pump Relay is energized. You can use the EEC-IV test connector to turn on the pumps. Or run the truck.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:01 AM
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Someone told me it was bad. Now that I understand more, I don't think it was bad at all.

I am beginning to think this one is bad. Would the calibration numbers be E5AE-9C485-CRD?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:07 AM
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Hi Vince - No, once it is warmed up I hear the fuel pump for a second or two and it shuts off. Starts right up!
Even on rainy days?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Someone told me it was bad. Now that I understand more, I don't think it was bad at all.

I am beginning to think this one is bad. Would the calibration numbers be E5AE-9C485-CRD?
See Gary Lewis thread #34, he refers to another related calibration code.

No, does not look like a calibration code.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Unfortunately, I cannot use the test connector to run the pumps. When I connect the jumper wire, I get nothing. You may recall I get no readings at all when I connect my code reader to the connectors. I have not figured out why and at this point, feel at a loss to do so. I am considering purchasing a new harness such as the Painless Performance 60511 but am not it is the correct harness.
Were you able to get codes before you replaced your ECA?

Were you able to get codes after you replaced your ECA?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by vjsimone
See Gary Lewis thread #34, he refers to another related calibration code.

No, does not look like a calibration code.
I confess I didn't really understand the chart he sent. Is it the 054Dr00 or 054Dr11 numbers? Not sure where to find those. I see nothing on my truck with those numbers.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vjsimone
Were you able to get codes before you replaced your ECA?

Were you able to get codes after you replaced your ECA?
Yes, I was able to get the codes with the old ECM. Not with the new one.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Would the calibration numbers be E5AE-9C485-CRD?
No that is not a calibration number, that is a ENGINE EMISSIONS DECAL STICKER part engineering number.
The calibration number is located on the drivers door most of the time.
If you can come up with the calibration number I might be able to look up the computer part & engineering numbers on Micro-Fiche.
Note both computer numbers have a base number of "12A650" and not "9C485".

Example of a Calibration Number would be 4-54E-R10 as in the image below. The example is for a 1994 as it stars with a 4:


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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
I confess I didn't really understand the chart he sent. Is it the 054Dr00 or 054Dr11 numbers? Not sure where to find those. I see nothing on my truck with those numbers.
Another Example; 5-54Q-R01
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by vjsimone
See Gary Lewis thread #34, he refers to another related calibration code.

No, does not look like a calibration code.
Thank you, VJS.

Just to make it easy since that post apparently hasn't been read, and it took me a lot of time to create, here it is again. But you will have to follow the link I supplied to see what a calibration code looks like.

As VJS said, I can find the ECM # for you if you have the calibration code. But I want to know that you are going to read my posts and use the information before I go to that trouble. It isn't easy and I have better things to do if not.

Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
That's not an ECM #. The catalog says that's a Calibration Rework Kit, as shown below. You can see what ECM #'s look like in this post: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16390352. And if you can find that number or the calibration code, which also shows in that thread, I can find the ECM #. The calibration code is discussed two posts after the one in the link.

 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by subford
No that is not a calibration number, that is a ENGINE EMISSIONS DECAL STICKER part engineering number.
The calibration number is located on the drivers door most of the time.
If you can come up with the calibration number I might be able to look up the computer part & engineering numbers on Micro-Fiche.
Note both computer numbers have a base number of "12A650" and not "9C485".

Example of a Calibration Number would be 4-54E-R10 as in the image below. The example is for a 1994 as it stars with a 4:


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Seems like I have roadblock after roadblock. The decal is severely worn and coming apart. It is very hard to read. There's a number at the bottom of it that indicates: E4TA-1020472 FA. There's another number in the engine compartment that indicates: E2AE-9H483-AA. The decal on the door area has tire pressure, vin number and body style, etc. I cannot see anything with a Calibration number or anything that says "Calibration Number" or at least, I cannot make it out if it IS there simply because it is severely worn and coming apart.

I appreciate your tenacity in trying to help me out. If you have any other clues, I am open to them.

How's the knee?
 
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