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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by '94IDITurbo7.3
Direct injection plays a big role in cold starting as well.
I understood that to be a given, my point was a cummins will start alot easier than a PSD or a dmax as well. Beyond that our equiptment (tractors and semis) will start when its -20 as long as the fuel isnt gelled.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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My '94 will start @ -25F. I don't really see the need for an intake heater. If all the parts of the system are working together 100% it is my opinion that they will probably always start as long as the fuel is liquid.
-Batteries
-Battery terminal connections
-Battery cables
-Starter
-Glow plugs
-Glow plug controller
-Glow plug wiring
-Compression

As long as all these are tip top, I personally don't have any trouble in the cold.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 300-6 AUTO TECH
My '94 will start @ -25F. I don't really see the need for an intake heater. If all the parts of the system are working together 100% it is my opinion that they will probably always start as long as the fuel is liquid.
-Batteries
-Battery terminal connections
-Battery cables
-Starter
-Glow plugs
-Glow plug controller
-Glow plug wiring
-Compression

As long as all these are tip top, I personally don't have any trouble in the cold.
Your 94 will start in -25 with no glow plugs..? I call BS

IMO the intake heater is better than GPs because there is only one and it heats the whole intake not just the cylinder... well pre-cup in fact.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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He did not say without glow plugs. Mine has started @ -10 without a block heater; the gp's ran for about 18 seconds before the wts light went out though.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Well it's official, I've put about a thousand miles on the new motor, can't take it anymore and broke down. Ordered an s366 today, gauges, some more sch. 40 for manifolds, tracked down a zf6 and t case for $1300(found one for $650 for both but obviously was sold before I could get it) and in the next two weeks when parts are coming it's going back under the knife. This time for good(haha yeah right).
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Awesome. I look forward to seeing how the s366 does for you? What IP are you running right now? And you are running the R&D Stage1 cam correct?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 88 Ford IDI
Awesome. I look forward to seeing how the s366 does for you? What IP are you running right now? And you are running the R&D Stage1 cam correct?
Right now I am just running a dps turbo cal, hoping to get my hands on something a little more in the 180 range. Yes I am running the stage 1 but also have .040 off the pistons.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Thats alot of turbo
 
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Ill be watchin the ZF6 swap, Iv always wanted one in my truck
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Arps 6.9
Right now I am just running a dps turbo cal, hoping to get my hands on something a little more in the 180 range. Yes I am running the stage 1 but also have .040 off the pistons.
Nice. It should make some power when all is said and done. I know it is NA still but how is the power with it NA and that much lower compression from the pistons and cam? Probably slightly more sluggish I would assume. I'm sure the turbo will liven it up though. I'm pretty stoked to see the s366 on your setup with more fuel. Nobody has run a turbo that big with that much fuel before.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 88 Ford IDI
Nice. It should make some power when all is said and done. I know it is NA still but how is the power with it NA and that much lower compression from the pistons and cam? Probably slightly more sluggish I would assume. I'm sure the turbo will liven it up though. I'm pretty stoked to see the s366 on your setup with more fuel. Nobody has run a turbo that big with that much fuel before.
Honestly, I can't tell any difference performance wise with lowered compression and cam. Same 0-60 times actually. It did seem to clean the fuel up much better, but didn't seem anymore powerful.

I am looking forward to the turbo and fuel, pulled 20,000 today and it just needs more to be able to do it efficiently. As far as the fuel is concerned, that could take some time before I could get my hands on something with 180ccs.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Just a non-idi smart question, but doesn't the injector spray inside the combustion chamber?
So if you cut back compression, is it going to burn it as efficiently?
I mean, is the combustion gonna have trouble getting into the rest of the compressed air that isn't in the combustion chambeR?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Just a non-idi smart question, but doesn't the injector spray inside the combustion chamber
Technically no. That's the indirect injection part. Less compression does however mean lower efficiency, I feel that I mostly could not tell a difference from the original engine because the original engine was utterly shot.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Sorry maybe I missed it, but you didn't put glow plugs back in?

Its lookin real good man!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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Decompressing the engine allows for more aggressive turbo pressure. When you turbo charge the engine you increase compression by forcing air into the cylinder before it compresses the air. Adding a turbo to a High compression diesel engine Like the IDI you create to much supper heated air pre combustion and this makes for High EGT's at lower fuel levels before you add more fuel to increase power. Balancing the compression to the turbo makes for better performing engine at higher power (Fuel) levels.
 
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