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From: Lakewood, Ca.
There's some stuff across 395 on the West side, but it's been there for many years. Cal-Trans has a facility a little ways up 395 on the East side and there's another structure that I'm not sure of in between the two, but other than that there's nothing. That may be the first clue.
The lot is at 37.60073/-118.80012
I think the foundation is certainly doable this season. The question is whether or not he wants to proceed.
The lot is at 37.60073/-118.80012
I think the foundation is certainly doable this season. The question is whether or not he wants to proceed.
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Well shoot, that's practically on the highway. I wouldn't have guessed the soil would be bad there. The roadbed seems to be holding up fine.
When you mentioned this job I assumed it was on the west side in that existing housing development. But he's going to be out there by himself in the open. Just down the road from the Little Green Church.
Is that a creekbed about 100' south southwest of the coords?
When you mentioned this job I assumed it was on the west side in that existing housing development. But he's going to be out there by himself in the open. Just down the road from the Little Green Church.
Is that a creekbed about 100' south southwest of the coords?
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What Area Of Crowley is this....I used to live there, and this sounds Like the Juniper drive area... or the Juniper Springs ranch area. Most of that area is dotted with natural springs, and that is pretty much the norm....
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2 or 3 miles South of the airport. On the East side of 395 @ Crowley Lake Dr.
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Sounds like it could be a 20-30k ooops depending on the size of the house etc. Might even be easier to just over ex the entire thing instead of just the footing. A lot of times spending a lil more on bigger equipment will save a lot of money in labor and time.
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Never mind I looked up the coordinates..... yes I know that area.... it is a cow pasture.. and always has been... that is all it is good for... the other side of the road is is a lateral moraine from an Old Glacier. it is basically a debris field but it is suitable for building if you don't mind a lot of shifting... but the east side of 395 is nothing but cow patty swamp. It is the Sierra's and the philosophy is ...If you don't like the soil... move 5 ft, if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. I looked at buying a house on the West side of 395 quite a few years ago... two things bothered me .. one was all of the cracks in the Foundation, two was the insane amount of Pests...flying and Rats... lots of rats there....
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Glad you chimed in Nathan, being this is right up your alley. I've never had to deal with this on such a large scale.
That was my suggestion.
The footings are a 40 x 20 box, but there are piers to support the roof trusses 8' out from the perimeter of the footing on the two long sides, so basically it needs to have 13' x 5' removed along those sides and 8' x 5' removed front and rear. The garage is a 24 x 40 slab on grade/w 3 piers in the center for roof support columns, which will also need to be over ex'ed.
The footings are a 40 x 20 box, but there are piers to support the roof trusses 8' out from the perimeter of the footing on the two long sides, so basically it needs to have 13' x 5' removed along those sides and 8' x 5' removed front and rear. The garage is a 24 x 40 slab on grade/w 3 piers in the center for roof support columns, which will also need to be over ex'ed.
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That small of a footprint, if the rest of the lot is big enough for the spoil pile would be pretty quick with a loader and a skilled operator. If they are only requiring 90% for the recompaction, you could probably get that with a medium size loader if you put the dirt back in in small lifts. Otherwise a ride-on sheepsfoot would be the ticket.
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To you that's a small footprint...it's huge to me 
According to the report the native soil isn't suitable for support of engineered fills or structural foundations so there won't be a spoil pile...it all has to go bye bye, and be replaced with fill that will pass a Proctor test. I don't know too much about all that stuff...I'm sure you do...but from what I can gather from the report the expansion index of the native soil is 78 and the design expansion index is 80.
According to the report the native soil isn't suitable for support of engineered fills or structural foundations so there won't be a spoil pile...it all has to go bye bye, and be replaced with fill that will pass a Proctor test. I don't know too much about all that stuff...I'm sure you do...but from what I can gather from the report the expansion index of the native soil is 78 and the design expansion index is 80.
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