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Old May 23, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Well, you guys keep saying that without pictures it didn't happen. So, here they are.

Is that the muffler that's responsible for the crappy noise that thing made when I was there? If so, I'd throw it in the back of, um, I think you call that pile in your back yard "Brownie...."

And, by "throw it in the back of" I mean that in a literal sense, not as slang to mean "installing parts & components." IOW give it to the recyclers - good riddance!!!
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Actually, since Rusty is, well, rusty and sports Osage County plates they think I'm a local. Everywhere I go out that way they wave at me. Doubt that'll happen when I have Dad's truck all spiff'd up.

By the way, did you see my note in one of these threads re coming down on Thursday? Bringing a tailgate, or maybe two, and the t-case. Can you give James a heads-up? Or, send me his # again?
PM coming or possibly a text business card to your phone. I will also head over there and give them message personally.
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Nice pic of the business end of the shop Gary!
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Is that the muffler that's responsible for the crappy noise that thing made when I was there? If so, I'd throw it in the back of, um, I think you call that pile in your back yard "Brownie...."

And, by "throw it in the back of" I mean that in a literal sense, not as slang to mean "installing parts & components." IOW give it to the recyclers - good riddance!!!
Yes, isn't it amazing how small that thing is? No wonder it sounds so..... awful. What you can't see is the step-ups on the inlet and step-downs on the outlet. Looks like they used a muffler with inlet/outlets two sizes larger than the tubing they were using. I'm planning to cut it off and install a longer muffler, but that can wait until I get it all back together.

Or, I could do some measuring and see if there is a muffler that would be a perfect fit. If so, I could do the cutting now and it would simplify the reinstallation. Hmmm.

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PM coming or possibly a text business card to your phone. I will also head over there and give them message personally.
Got it. Thanks! Cool! I'll give James Wrench a call.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Gary you have GOT to be the most organized person I have ever seen. Even have a printed check list! I usually do some kind of check list but nothing like that. Just giving you a hard time but, it is nice to see how the big boys do it.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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Gary you have GOT to be the most organized person I have ever seen. Even have a printed check list! I usually do some kind of check list but nothing like that. Just giving you a hard time but, it is nice to see how the big boys do it.
I put the original list together to think through how to do it, and realized that where I was going to start would have backed me into a corner. And yesterday, after pulling the exhaust out, I realized that it has to go back in before the tranny and t-case go in or there won't be room. So, I find the list very helpful. But, I am cheating a bit 'cause I flesh-out the list as I'm doing it to show progress.

As for the "big boy" comment, if that is a compliment I thank you.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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Nice pic of the business end of the shop Gary!
Gary, I've got that exact same top Kennedy box on my tool bench. I've had it for years (1980). I got it from a boss of mine that lost the key, $5 I think.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Gary, I've got that exact same top Kennedy box on my tool bench. I've had it for years (1980). I got it from a boss of mine that lost the key, $5 I think.
Being a machinist's box it has just the right drawers for mikes, calipers, and even the handbook. Mine is very old and I got it for little or nothing years ago. But, it still provides good service.
 
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Wow, talk about organization!

When I pulled the 300 from my F150, it was on a whim with no preparation involved. Of course, I knew I wasn't gonna re-use anything from it, so maybe that's why.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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I'll save y'all from posting the updated to-do list, but I ticked the box about taking the transfer case to James Wrench (Bruno's inside joke). And, I actually took him two tailgates to chose from - the one off of Rusty that is bowed in the middle, and one I picked up that someone had painted with a spray can. The latter is in better shape, but it has the cables instead of the straps that James' truck has, so he'll have to decide which one he wants and how much work he wants to do.

(Does anyone remember off the top of the head how easy/hard it is to use a later model tailgate with the cable on an earlier bed that is set up for the straps?)

And, I asked him to go through the t-case and let me know whether to go all out on it and make it the one to put on Dad's truck, or just make it work properly but keep the same bearings and put it back on Rusty. Don't want to make Rusty perfect and then sell him, but I do want him to work properly.

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Wow, talk about organization!

When I pulled the 300 from my F150, it was on a whim with no preparation involved. Of course, I knew I wasn't gonna re-use anything from it, so maybe that's why.
It would be one thing if I were just pulling the engine to replace it in the same truck. But, at one point I'll have two engines, three transmissions, three transfer cases, four drive shafts, two bumpers, two radiators, two radiator supports, two exhaust systems, etc, etc, etc out of the trucks and demanding storage. And, I will have to roll trucks in and out of the shop by hand several times. So, I really do have to have this fairly well thought out or I'll be in the wrong place at the right time.

Besides, it doesn't sound like a lot of work to say "I pulled the engine out of Rusty today". But, when you look at the to-do list it is a bit more impressive.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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You just want an excuse to make an 8 page micro-analysis out of this whole engine swap.

Tagging and bagging would suffice, but noooooo, that's just not good enough for our micro-analyst.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 02:39 AM
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As for the "big boy" comment, if that is a compliment I thank you.

Yea it was, in my normal sarcastic manner.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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I put the original list together to think through how to do it, and realized that where I was going to start would have backed me into a corner. And yesterday, after pulling the exhaust out, I realized that it has to go back in before the tranny and t-case go in or there won't be room. So, I find the list very helpful. But, I am cheating a bit 'cause I flesh-out the list as I'm doing it to show progress.

As for the "big boy" comment, if that is a compliment I thank you.
Let's all be honest and admit that a time or two we have all made lists.

Make one of every part, nut, bolt, clamps,etc.

List for every errand while in town. Bank, gas, groceries,etc.

Get to town and leave the list at HOME. I AM GUILTY ONE TIME. lol.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Finally got back to working on Rusty today. Got the steering column out - after a battle. The intermediate shaft didn't want to let go of the lower shaft in the column. Looks like I'll have to rebuild the column because I need it for Dad's truck as it is the only manual transmission column I have. Hopefully the other columns I have will have good parts. Or, I wonder how hard it is to make an auto/tilt column into a manual? Wait - having read through the tear-down referenced below I'm not sure I want a tilt wheel! Wow, they are complicated.

Also ran into a problem getting the ignition tumbler out of the '85 auto/tilt column that's going into Rusty, but I may have just figured that out. In the Tips/Tricks section there's a how-to on steering columns and I saw something there that I'd missed - it has to be in Park. Duh!

I also got the clutch/brake pedal assembly out and an auto brake pedal assembly back in. And, I pulled the intermittent wiper switch and governor as that will go in Dad's truck and the on/off switch from his will go in Rusty. Also removed the instrument panel as it's the one w/the tach and it goes in Dad's truck as well.

One thing I didn't get done was removing the pilot bearing from the rear of Rusty's crankshaft. I've read that you can remove them by filling them with grease and driving a shaft that just fits in, which causes the grease to push on the bearing. So, I turned a shaft to just fit and beat, pounded, and greased, but all I succeeded in doing was to waste a lot of grease. Looks like I'm going to have to get the slide-hammer the shop manual calls for.

Maybe tomorrow I'll get the tumbler in the steering column and get it installed. Then I'll pull the engine, which is resting on its mounts and leaning back against the firewall, patiently waiting for its new home.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Finally got back to working on Rusty today. Got the steering column out - after a battle. The intermediate shaft didn't want to let go of the lower shaft in the column. Looks like I'll have to rebuild the column because I need it for Dad's truck as it is the only manual transmission column I have. Hopefully the other columns I have will have good parts. Or, I wonder how hard it is to make an auto/tilt column into a manual? Wait - having read through the tear-down referenced below I'm not sure I want a tilt wheel! Wow, they are complicated.

Also ran into a problem getting the ignition tumbler out of the '85 auto/tilt column that's going into Rusty, but I may have just figured that out. In the Tips/Tricks section there's a how-to on steering columns and I saw something there that I'd missed - it has to be in Park. Duh!

I also got the clutch/brake pedal assembly out and an auto brake pedal assembly back in. And, I pulled the intermittent wiper switch and governor as that will go in Dad's truck and the on/off switch from his will go in Rusty. Also removed the instrument panel as it's the one w/the tach and it goes in Dad's truck as well.

One thing I didn't get done was removing the pilot bearing from the rear of Rusty's crankshaft. I've read that you can remove them by filling them with grease and driving a shaft that just fits in, which causes the grease to push on the bearing. So, I turned a shaft to just fit and beat, pounded, and greased, but all I succeeded in doing was to waste a lot of grease. Looks like I'm going to have to get the slide-hammer the shop manual calls for.

Maybe tomorrow I'll get the tumbler in the steering column and get it installed. Then I'll pull the engine, which is resting on its mounts and leaning back against the firewall, patiently waiting for its new home.

Gary, on the pilot bearing, I take a tap and put a socket on it and drag out the impact wrench. A few hits and it WILL come out.

If you get nervous, stick a bolt in it and get the slide hammer. Usually it will come out fairly easy.
 

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