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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Oh no, I'm all for blowing money on our rigs!!

It's just for me personally, I'd rather go with an OEM pump and a separate filtration kit.

Stewart

Lol. Yeah I have a few buddies who dumped insane money in their rigs.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001F350dualwheel

My only issue with the IH pump is if it decides to crap out when you're in ANYTown USA and the nearest auto store only has a factory replacement.
then bolt in a OEM pump and buy a new OEM lower hose and get back on your marry way? as far as i see no real hard mods that cant be reversed on the road...
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OldBlackCat
then bolt in a OEM pump and buy a new OEM lower hose and get back on your marry way? as far as i see no real hard mods that cant be reversed on the road...

Sure if the auto store has all the hoses and bolts you need. They may not have all the parts needed to go back to the "factory" pump. I mean anything can be ordered if you don't mind waiting.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:11 AM
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ya im going oem pump as i have the housing, hoses and tstat already from riff raff.. next time itll get modded
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 04:02 PM
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did we ever figure out the best bottom hose to use of the IH water pump? I remember there were several brands/types tried but for the most part non were exactly right for the deal..

I was going to finally get around to doing the water pump this summer and getting parts ordered to do this.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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Yes, I did a lot of research because I have the IH water pump and if I could not get one from Diesel Site (very expensive anyway) in a hurry when on the road, I wanted a suitable alternative without having to band-aid fix it.

The one that I found to be the best fit and readily available is the Gates 26517 2" to 2.25" like in the link below. Being as it is a Gates hose, there are a lot of sources that could get the hose in a short amount of time if it was not in stock.

Gates Vulco-Flex Green Stripe 26517 - Coolant Hose | O'Reilly Auto Parts
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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hey man
thanks for that.. looks like the deal for sure.
have a good one and gates is quality for sure plus replaceable on the road if needed..


Originally Posted by Sous
Yes, I did a lot of research because I have the IH water pump and if I could not get one from Diesel Site (very expensive anyway) in a hurry when on the road, I wanted a suitable alternative without having to band-aid fix it.

The one that I found to be the best fit and readily available is the Gates 26517 2" to 2.25" like in the link below. Being as it is a Gates hose, there are a lot of sources that could get the hose in a short amount of time if it was not in stock.

Gates Vulco-Flex Green Stripe 26517 - Coolant Hose | O'Reilly Auto Parts
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by carl2591
hey man
thanks for that.. looks like the deal for sure.
have a good one and gates is quality for sure plus replaceable on the road if needed..
Agreed, and if worst came to worst you could probably source a suitable replacement from a big 3 parts store with the Gates number to cross reference.

I have built a list of parts and the best place to get them that typically fail on the 7.3. This way if I am out and about and need something, I don't have to spend anytime at all finding what I need. I can just go to my list and order/purchase the part.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
Agreed, and if worst came to worst you could probably source a suitable replacement from a big 3 parts store with the Gates number to cross reference.

I have built a list of parts and the best place to get them that typically fail on the 7.3. This way if I am out and about and need something, I don't have to spend anytime at all finding what I need. I can just go to my list and order/purchase the part.
Share list please
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicmike
Here are some photos of the re-routing of the heater hose from the top of the old pump to the side of the new pump. The length of hose required is 3.5ft.

Tie in here at passenger side valve cover.
Attachment 65390

The "max A/C assist" valve over the passenger side valve cover.
Attachment 65391

Run the hose like this:
Attachment 65392

Attachment 65393

Attachment 65394
Love the blue . Where can I get one of those max ac things
 
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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by biggdirty7.3
Love the blue . Where can I get one of those max ac things
Max A/C assist from Diesel Site.

http://www.dieselsite.com/maxacassis...4-200373l.aspx

Many have had good luck or experiences with this piece, I did not. I think there may be a vacuum leak in the device itself as it will not close the valve when applying vacuum to it.

There are 2 other options that are just as suitable.

This is a similar version of the Max A/C assist made by Ford that came in the Ranger and seems to work in just about every occassion it has been used.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C5DZQE...I15DJOGWO5K6DB


A third and manual option is to put in a valve with barb fittings on each end in the hose system.

http://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.ford...1a64ed74d7.png
 
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 05:32 PM
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I'm in the middle of collecting all the pieces for this swap, and I believe the IH short thermostat is the same as the OBS 94-97 one. If so, that makes it a lot easier to search for replacements and different temp settings. Can anyone verify this?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
Max A/C assist from Diesel Site.

http://www.dieselsite.com/maxacassis...4-200373l.aspx

Many have had good luck or experiences with this piece, I did not. I think there may be a vacuum leak in the device itself as it will not close the valve when applying vacuum to it.

There are 2 other options that are just as suitable.

This is a similar version of the Max A/C assist made by Ford that came in the Ranger and seems to work in just about every occassion it has been used.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C5DZQE...I15DJOGWO5K6DB

Superduty - Max A/C Mod (Colder Air Conditioning) - YouTube

A third and manual option is to put in a valve with barb fittings on each end in the hose system.

http://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.ford...1a64ed74d7.png
I ended up getting it just need to install it lol
 
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 05:57 PM
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I seemed to have answered my own question. The very next search I made after my last post was for the Stant parts catalog, and within it I found this info:

The 14252 205° thermostat is OE for 1995, while the 14259 192° thermostat is OE for 1996-98, according to Stant.

EDIT: Originally I searched the Stant catalog for 14252, but then I decided to search for the 7.3 L Diesel in general, and I found that the 14259 thermostat is the Stant equivalent for OE for all 7.3L's from 1996 to 2003. So apparently the short stem will fit our Ford aluminum water pump as well, which I guess makes sense. The 205° thermostat was listed as OE for the 1995, with the 192° as the Heavy Duty Thermostat. Based on that info, I'm getting a Stant 14259.
Thanks guys.
 
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