T444E water pump
Veteran/Sheepdog
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From: Western AR
Here ya go. We laptoppers can rotate the screen, please all you desktoppers don't hurt your neck. Anyway. That's the initial Baldwin that came with the Dieselsite bypass kit after 30k. Looks almost new. I'm running Ford Gold. I kept checking the temp of it expecting it to get cold as it plugged up and stopped flow, but it never did. New filter has approx 17k and I will wait for it to show evidence of plugging before I swap it out.
Thanks for posting up the pic. Anybody reading have thoughts about the bypass filter seemingly not picking much of anything up? I'm not knocking the bypass setups, but I would like to hear feedback from the more "experienced" minds that wander these halls and argue among each other
Post Fiend
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From: Carhenge
Thanks for posting up the pic. Anybody reading have thoughts about the bypass filter seemingly not picking much of anything up? I'm not knocking the bypass setups, but I would like to hear feedback from the more "experienced" minds that wander these halls and argue among each other
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: North Carolina, Raleigh
great article on water pump and coolant info.
I understand from past owner the water pump was replaced at 75K. Truck now has 168K so wondering what is normal life of these pumps. Not sure type of replacement pump it look like the OEM style with main bottom coming off right lower side of pump.
It does not appears to be leaking at this point.
It appears to have the gold coolant installed. So will most likely go back with that when changing out pump.. Was thinking about the cast iron IH pump and changing out O rings in pump as shown with better type rings.
What is recommend coolant the motorcraft or something else.
is this correct stuff
how many gallons needed to do a good flush and replace. Was just going to drain coolant and refill with regular water from city tap run till hot with heater on and drain fluid, fill and flush again, then do pump replace and new coolant.
I understand from past owner the water pump was replaced at 75K. Truck now has 168K so wondering what is normal life of these pumps. Not sure type of replacement pump it look like the OEM style with main bottom coming off right lower side of pump.
It does not appears to be leaking at this point.
It appears to have the gold coolant installed. So will most likely go back with that when changing out pump.. Was thinking about the cast iron IH pump and changing out O rings in pump as shown with better type rings.
What is recommend coolant the motorcraft or something else.
is this correct stuff
how many gallons needed to do a good flush and replace. Was just going to drain coolant and refill with regular water from city tap run till hot with heater on and drain fluid, fill and flush again, then do pump replace and new coolant.
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From: Central Coast of CA
If yes, I'd suggest a heavy duty ELC coolant meeting Cat EC-1 spec, like Chevron Delo HD ELC.
Gooch's Coolant Flush Procedure and In-Depth Coolant Information
Stewart
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: North Carolina, Raleigh
If you have the Motorcraft Gold coolant already, I'd assume your 7.3 is a L99 or newer, yes?
If yes, I'd suggest a heavy duty ELC coolant meeting Cat EC-1 spec, like Chevron Delo HD ELC.
Gooch's Coolant Flush Procedure and In-Depth Coolant Information
Stewart
If yes, I'd suggest a heavy duty ELC coolant meeting Cat EC-1 spec, like Chevron Delo HD ELC.
Gooch's Coolant Flush Procedure and In-Depth Coolant Information
Stewart
good info from good people.
PS truck is 2003 sept build date.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Mcdonough, GA
Yes I know it's an old thread but a good one with excellent info. I've added the International water pump to my list of upcoming to do's but want to ask those who have done it if the 1/2 npt to 5/8 hose barb has to be 45 degrees to fit or will a straight do the job just fine. I saw a complete kit on line and it appeared to have the straight fitting. Anyone done this with the straight???
Thanks, Paul
Thanks, Paul
Veteran/Sheepdog
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From: Western AR
Straight fitting will certainly work. I used the 45 to give the hose coming off it a kink-free angle to where it needed to go up above.
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From: Mcdonough, GA
I was looking at pics online before my water pump actually arrived and trying to gather parts. Some seem to have only one boss for a fitting at the outlet end but others have 2 like yours. The single boss units looked like it was on top and a straight would be better. I have both a straight and 45 fitting and will see which fits best once I get the old pump off and can hold the new in place. Sure looks like the 45 will be the right one though.
I really appreciate the time you put in on this thread. It really made it an easy decision to go ahead and do it. I was going to do a seperate bypass system when I found this write up. I like this much better.
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2012
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From: Fort Polk Louisiana
I never installed my bypass kit. This seemed like the cleaner way to go, and looks more like a factory install. I'll probably end up selling the kit to somebody who wants to go that route.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: North Carolina, Raleigh
o-rings for filter shut off on t444e water pump
get my HONKING new OEM made in US International Harvester water pump and was wondering if anyone has the replacement o-rings for the filter shut off i could buy..
I could not find them on diesel o ring site so not sure the cost..
let me know how much for one and i will send you cash or do paypal.
thanks
carl
that is one big heavy mother for sure.
I could not find them on diesel o ring site so not sure the cost..
let me know how much for one and i will send you cash or do paypal.
thanks
carl
that is one big heavy mother for sure.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: OKC, OK
get my HONKING new OEM made in US International Harvester water pump and was wondering if anyone has the replacement o-rings for the filter shut off i could buy..
I could not find them on diesel o ring site so not sure the cost..
let me know how much for one and i will send you cash or do paypal.
thanks
carl
that is one big heavy mother for sure.
I could not find them on diesel o ring site so not sure the cost..
let me know how much for one and i will send you cash or do paypal.
thanks
carl
that is one big heavy mother for sure.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,508
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From: North Carolina, Raleigh
-205 Viton o-ring (I bought from the o-ring store dot com) v75203 part number.
min order is 4 and shipping is $5.95..
What happen to put them in an envelope put a .44 or whatever it cost now to mail, put a name on it and send it .. hell i don't mind paying a dollar for the supplies. I might get 15 or so and sell them to guys on the forum for cost of o'ring $.26, stamp $.47, envelope $.20, profit ?, total cost of $1.50
what the problem with the o'ring that come in them again.??
10=$5
min order is 4 and shipping is $5.95..
What happen to put them in an envelope put a .44 or whatever it cost now to mail, put a name on it and send it .. hell i don't mind paying a dollar for the supplies. I might get 15 or so and sell them to guys on the forum for cost of o'ring $.26, stamp $.47, envelope $.20, profit ?, total cost of $1.50
what the problem with the o'ring that come in them again.??
10=$5
Veteran/Sheepdog
Joined: Feb 2012
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From: Western AR
the Viton material is much more durable than the o-ring that comes with it. Someone who pioneered this thing stated their o-ring failed soon after install, and everyone has been replacing them on install now. If you feel lucky, don't bother replacing yours.
I don't think I have any left. Mailed them all out to members to do their own installs...
I don't think I have any left. Mailed them all out to members to do their own installs...