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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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I've been looking very closely to the oil cooler and the pictures below show how VERY important the O rings are when sealing the coolant from the oil area of the cooler . The cooler has a machined ring around it in the front that seals the coolant from the oil chamber .
This machined ring is "tack" welded in 3 spot around the cooler. Since this machined ring isn't welded all the way around the O ring needs to seal properly or the coolant can go over or more importantly "under" the machined ring and enter the oil chamber. Take a look at what I mean.

 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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The paper shows where the coolant can enter the oil chamber very easily over time .
Forgot to add it above
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AverageX
I've been looking very closely to the oil cooler and the pictures below show how VERY important the O rings are when sealing the coolant from the oil area of the cooler . The cooler has a machined ring around it in the front that seals the coolant from the oil chamber .
This machined ring is "tack" welded in 3 spot around the cooler. Since this machined ring isn't welded all the way around the O ring needs to seal properly or the coolant can go over or more importantly "under" the machined ring and enter the oil chamber. Take a look at what I mean.
Great pics and explanation. Like the shot of the paper slipped under the ring.

Reps sent.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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Ok my O rings will be here later this morning. Here's my plan of attack and looking for approval on the plan.

Replace O rings ,little clean oil on the O rings and press together
Reinstall cooler ,block heater and all hoses
Fill cooling system with distilled water (or coolant) ?
Install oil filter and 15 qts of oil. (i'm gonna use Motorcraft Super Duty 15-40 oil)
How should I proceed after that ?
Just start it up ? Just turn it over and not start it ? Then start it ?
Just for the record . It raining all day and yes the trucks in my driveway
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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I like the distilled water idea but I would get 4gal of the cheapest 15w40 oil I could find to put in first & 2 FL-1995 oil filt. After you run it enough to see if problem solved change oil & filter, drain the water & put 4gal of the ELC anti-freeze top it of with distilled water. Good luck BTW maybe wait & do it tomorrow, you gonna get a wet a-- today LOL
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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I like the distilled water idea but I would get 4gal of the cheapest 15w40 oil I could find to put in first & 2 FL-1995 oil filt. After you run it enough to see if problem solved change oil & filter, drain the water & put 4gal of the ELC anti-freeze top it of with distilled water. Good luck BTW maybe wait & do it tomorrow, you gonna get a wet a-- today LOL
Can you tell me exactly what ELC anti-freeze is ? I was going to use this .


 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Can you tell me exactly what ELC anti-freeze is ? I was going to use this .


The ELC is the red colored one that is fully charge with the additives needed for diesel engines good for 300- 600k miles. That stuff you have there will be fine but keep a check on the SCA levels, I don't think it meets the minimun right from the start.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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The ELC is the red colored one that is fully charge with the additives needed for diesel engines good for 300- 600k miles. That stuff you have there will be fine but keep a check on the SCA levels, I don't think it meets the minimun right from the start.
Like this ?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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I believe that's it. My suggestion is to get the concentrate because you'll never get all the water out & you wind up less than a 50/50 mix. BTW I got mine from a Cat dealer
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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I believe that's it. My suggestion is to get the concentrate because you'll never get all the water out & you wind up less than a 50/50 mix. BTW I got mine from a Cat dealer
Ok Thank you very much for the help.
I'm heading out to get all my stuff and hope I get a break in the rain.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Well I'm gettn ready . Just need the UPS guy to get here
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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If you can pressurize the coolant system and test for leaks I would do that before adding oil and coolant. Hope that works for you!
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Great idea. I wonder if I can do that from the expansion tank ?
I thought of cutting one of these in half and hose clamping it to the mouth of the expansion tank ? What do ya think .
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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You might be able to rent a pressure tester from autozone: Product & HowTo Info | | | TEST | AutoZone.com

Looks like some leaks may not show up on a cold engine but I would still try to figure something out. I probably wouldn't go over 15psi.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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You might be able to rent a pressure tester from autozone: Product & HowTo Info | | | TEST | AutoZone.com

Looks like some leaks may not show up on a cold engine but I would still try to figure something out. I probably wouldn't go over 15psi.
Ok I've found out that it's not a lot of pressure in there. Guess that's why they can get away with O rings . Thanks again
Tom
 
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