FICM testing procedure
#136
Hey Cabinman,
Should I use the HSS additive for the fuel or oil? Or both? I see it's $50 for the oil additive and $10 for the fuel. Is this product sold in stores? Pretty expensive and I hate to tack on shipping and handling as well.
To recap my 2004 6.0 issues. I am getting the 48V reading after about 2 seconds (if that) of 24V after key on. Then 48V when running. I'm reluctant to try the soldering trick on my FICM. Should I try the additive first?
Thanks
Should I use the HSS additive for the fuel or oil? Or both? I see it's $50 for the oil additive and $10 for the fuel. Is this product sold in stores? Pretty expensive and I hate to tack on shipping and handling as well.
To recap my 2004 6.0 issues. I am getting the 48V reading after about 2 seconds (if that) of 24V after key on. Then 48V when running. I'm reluctant to try the soldering trick on my FICM. Should I try the additive first?
Thanks
#137
It's easy to do and you don't need much.
Hi, once you have it out, it's easy to do, I wouldn't want to trust a $500-$1000 part to some kid who may not take it apart as nicely as someone who cares. Not saying none of them do but by the time you send it and get it back, you could easily have done it 100 times over. The other solution is to remove, take apart and bring it and the soldering locations to a local electronics repair firm, I'd think $30-$45 buck would be very fair for them to do it. It only takes 10 minutes maximum. Just my 2 cents on it.
Teddy...check this out...go to craigslist. Type in xbox repair...you would be amazed at how many local kids have the equipment that will re-flow your board....right in their garage or basement and probably for arounf $30. Its the same process they use to repair game systems due to weak solder joints from excessive heat.
#138
Funny you recommended both, came back here just after ordering.......both.
I've been running Rotella t 5w40, just about ready for a change so I guess I'll wait for the HSS. I bet this stuff will help a lot.....sometimes you just have a gut feeling!
I've been running Rotella t 5w40, just about ready for a change so I guess I'll wait for the HSS. I bet this stuff will help a lot.....sometimes you just have a gut feeling!
Hi, I would run both the oil and fuel treatment.. The fuel in North America ( diesel ) sucks and unfortunately for us, they refuse to be smart and forward thinking and require all diesel fuel sold to have minimum cetane levels. Just as gasoline has octane ratings so you know what you're getting when you buy regular, mid or premium, diesel fuel sold should be required to advertise and guarantee a certain level of Cetane. When you add an additive like the one they are selling, it adds cetane and cleans the fuel system, also I believe theirs helps stabilize the fuel as well allowing for longer storage but don't quote me on the last statement. I just know they sell a product that does that as well. I hope this helps but really, even though it seems expensive, it's not. You pay somewhere between $8-$10 now for synthetic. If you do an oil change at the same time you add HSS, you will have to removed that much from your oil portion of the fill so you end up at almost exactly the same price with a whole lot to gain. Nevermind the money back guarantee ! It's a no brainer...
#139
We have a very good marine electronics shop near me.......might want to try something like that as well.
Hi, once you have it out, it's easy to do, I wouldn't want to trust a $500-$1000 part to some kid who may not take it apart as nicely as someone who cares. Not saying none of them do but by the time you send it and get it back, you could easily have done it 100 times over. The other solution is to remove, take apart and bring it and the soldering locations to a local electronics repair firm, I'd think $30-$45 buck would be very fair for them to do it. It only takes 10 minutes maximum. Just my 2 cents on it.
#141
There is a lot of information on a long thread about it but while some people don't think it works, most people who tried it ( by a wide margin ) reported good if not great results and there's no risk with the money back guarantee.
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#142
I bought my March build '03 brand new and have followed all of the 6.0's problems, flashes, warranty denials, etc since I bought the truck and the beginning of time for the 6.0. I have seen and heard practically everything and have witnessed all the crap from Ford as they were trying to scramble to put a band-aid on all of the problems with them. There are 2 things that I've taken away from all of it. First thing is that I was VERY fortunate to have bought a good one. It's had some problems, but less than any other vehicle I've ever owned.....and that's remarkable considering it was a 1st year model. The second big thing, and maybe more importantly, is the fact that all 6.0's, especially the '03's, are like snowflakes. You will NOT find any two that are the same! Even on the same build date!
I guess that's the reason that I'm willing to give this juice a try. So I absolutely believe your experience, D8chumley. But FWIW, there is no way in the world I would discount someone else's experience either.....not with these snowflakes!
I guess that's the reason that I'm willing to give this juice a try. So I absolutely believe your experience, D8chumley. But FWIW, there is no way in the world I would discount someone else's experience either.....not with these snowflakes!
Um, yeah, I don't think I'd agree with that cabinman. No disrespect intended, but I think you may have stretched that a little. I tried it, didn't see any improvement after 2 treatments, and just recently replaced 4 injectors. I'm not saying DON'T TRY IT, just saying don't expect miracles. My .02
#143
Hi, once you have it out, it's easy to do, I wouldn't want to trust a $500-$1000 part to some kid who may not take it apart as nicely as someone who cares. Not saying none of them do but by the time you send it and get it back, you could easily have done it 100 times over. The other solution is to remove, take apart and bring it and the soldering locations to a local electronics repair firm, I'd think $30-$45 buck would be very fair for them to do it. It only takes 10 minutes maximum. Just my 2 cents on it.
#144
Ah! Yeah that makes sense and is quick !
makes sense I thought you meant send it somewhere, if your close to someone like that, that would be the ticket for those who aren't comfy with soldering.
Think you misunderstood me or maybe I didn't clarify...I meant to say take them the board...not the whole ficm? These guys do it right in front of you...litterally takes minutes. Seriously...you call them up, drive to their house, they flow the board and you drive back home and put the board back in. $30 bucks isn't bad, if you don't feel confident with your soldering abbilities.
#145
I have a 2003 f250 6.0
So let me get this streight you clip the black (neg) multi meter wire to the battery and then test the FICM screw with the red (pos) muli meter wire?
Is the left most screw in the row of 4 screws the only one you test when you do all the tests?
What happens if you touch any of the other screws?
PROCEDURE for 7 SCREW FICM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19315
4b. Repeat step 4 above (multi meter step) but put the positive lead on the left-most screw in the row of 4 screws.
Do not let the probe short against the case!
So let me get this streight you clip the black (neg) multi meter wire to the battery and then test the FICM screw with the red (pos) muli meter wire?
Is the left most screw in the row of 4 screws the only one you test when you do all the tests?
What happens if you touch any of the other screws?
PROCEDURE for 7 SCREW FICM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19315
4b. Repeat step 4 above (multi meter step) but put the positive lead on the left-most screw in the row of 4 screws.
Do not let the probe short against the case!
#146
I have a 2003 f250 6.0
So let me get this streight you clip the black (neg) multi meter wire to the battery and then test the FICM screw with the red (pos) muli meter wire?
Is the left most screw in the row of 4 screws the only one you test when you do all the tests?
What happens if you touch any of the other screws?
PROCEDURE for 7 SCREW FICM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19315
4b. Repeat step 4 above (multi meter step) but put the positive lead on the left-most screw in the row of 4 screws.
Do not let the probe short against the case!
So let me get this streight you clip the black (neg) multi meter wire to the battery and then test the FICM screw with the red (pos) muli meter wire?
Is the left most screw in the row of 4 screws the only one you test when you do all the tests?
What happens if you touch any of the other screws?
PROCEDURE for 7 SCREW FICM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19315
4b. Repeat step 4 above (multi meter step) but put the positive lead on the left-most screw in the row of 4 screws.
Do not let the probe short against the case!
#149
Hi all, Looking for any help to determine if it is actually the FICM.
I just bought a 04' 6.0 with 150,000 miles. I had a rough start about 3 weeks ago. had to crank it about 8 times before it started but then ran fine for about 1 week then out of the blue driving to work my battery light came on at about 2200rpm and then went out at about 2000rpm. did'nt think much about it. then on my way home the same day it ran really rough on the way to the interstate and then it would not excel to above 65mph and once in while it would jump and buck and rattle if i excelled, i would let off and it would stop. I made it home and came across a thread about the EGR valves.
The next morning it started fine, it was about 25 degree F, but it would not excel above 10 mph it had idled for about 20 mins in the driveway. I was helping my son deliver newspapers and figured i would drive it to do that i didn't need to excel above 10 any way. it started to run better as i went and eventual could get it moving up to 40mph, but when exceling it would still do the same sputter buck and choke and blow black smoke when choking. So i decided to clean EGR that did not make any difference at all. It was very dirty. then i didnt drive it for 6 days went to start it and it would not start and have been able to get it to start since. i ran the batteries down trying to start it and figured i better charge them so i pulled them out to charge them and noticed that they are new Motocraft batteries and also looks to be a new alternator. These symptoms sound alot like many i have read about a bad FICM. Its still cold up in Northern Utah.
Looking for any help to determine if it is actually the FICM.Thanks
I just bought a 04' 6.0 with 150,000 miles. I had a rough start about 3 weeks ago. had to crank it about 8 times before it started but then ran fine for about 1 week then out of the blue driving to work my battery light came on at about 2200rpm and then went out at about 2000rpm. did'nt think much about it. then on my way home the same day it ran really rough on the way to the interstate and then it would not excel to above 65mph and once in while it would jump and buck and rattle if i excelled, i would let off and it would stop. I made it home and came across a thread about the EGR valves.
The next morning it started fine, it was about 25 degree F, but it would not excel above 10 mph it had idled for about 20 mins in the driveway. I was helping my son deliver newspapers and figured i would drive it to do that i didn't need to excel above 10 any way. it started to run better as i went and eventual could get it moving up to 40mph, but when exceling it would still do the same sputter buck and choke and blow black smoke when choking. So i decided to clean EGR that did not make any difference at all. It was very dirty. then i didnt drive it for 6 days went to start it and it would not start and have been able to get it to start since. i ran the batteries down trying to start it and figured i better charge them so i pulled them out to charge them and noticed that they are new Motocraft batteries and also looks to be a new alternator. These symptoms sound alot like many i have read about a bad FICM. Its still cold up in Northern Utah.
Looking for any help to determine if it is actually the FICM.Thanks
#150