No topic thread,,, Part 2
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From: carter lake ia.
i have tools that i used all the time and specialty tools that i use once in a while.
like a ford cam synchronizer tool for example. i used it once in 3years.
and now i don't use any of them.
like a ford cam synchronizer tool for example. i used it once in 3years.
and now i don't use any of them.
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From: Winnipeg
How long are you guys going to go on about tools??? 
In my opinion, tools are like most things. You get what you pay for. But I also look at it this way, if you don't use something every day, do you need the best one out there or will the middle of the road one do the job and save you $$ along the way. OOOPPPPs, there's that female logic again.
In my opinion, tools are like most things. You get what you pay for. But I also look at it this way, if you don't use something every day, do you need the best one out there or will the middle of the road one do the job and save you $$ along the way. OOOPPPPs, there's that female logic again.
Regarding your second point about female logic again....well years ago, if I wasn't working with a tool every day...I did what you suggest....I went the econo route, just get a tool that wasn't too expensive, but that I figured would do the job...occasionally.
In my case I did that with drills...I bought low end consumer drills. But I found about every 3-5 years I had to replace them as they burn't out. Because once in a blue moon I would use this occasional tool for a heavy duty job. The consumer level drills couldn't hack it started to slip and then smoked , then stripped gears, or burn't up their windings...or whatever they burn up in there. I'm no expert on how a drill works, I just know when it doesn't work and what precedes the breakdown, from my sorry, past experience.
So I went to a prof. carpenter's retail tool shop and asked them what I should get, given my frustration. They sold me a Black & Decker Industrial drill for the princely sum of $ 126.
I've had it for 20 + years and although I just use it occasionally and ever so often have a real tough job...it has not failed me yet. Considering that the first consumer drill(also a B + D) cost me $30 (going back 25 years +, lasted 3-5 years, the second consumer drill (B+D again)...lasted 3 years....I figure in the long run this Industrial Black and Decker drill...fit for a pro carpenter...will last me my lifetime, then maybe my son will inherit....or ...my daughter.
I think in the long run, it's more expensive initially to buy, but then has proved more economical over a long period of time, due to it's comparative durability and reliability.
One other thing...I find it a real pleasure to use a really good tool....the way they work efficiently , the way that when using a really good tool...I find because of their build quality and better tolerances, that my finished work is better . I think it's because an excellent tool...just tends to do the job much better and faster. I don't get frustrated like I do with poor, lower end tools, I actually enjoy the work with a fine tool.
Before I as retired in my career, I had to write longhand a lot. Daily. I found that the pens I used were generally expensive , but made writing easier. I used Sheaffers' White dot, fountain and ball point pens. The difference between these pens and a cheap Bic, was amazing to me. I bought them myself.
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Now I have all the needed tools I need more tool boxes/roll-a-ways but between the welders, plasma, benches, air compressors and storage cupboards I`m totally out of shop floor space............
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Jack, there was a sale on some nice Rubber Maid garage cabinets. I found out that they`re alot of work to put together and the shelves are too short for my new tool trays......Back to sq one!
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well sharon, i gotta dissagree with your female logic... if you only got to do the job once, find a GOOD QUALITY tool to rent or borrow, or get someone else to do the job. using the female logic, buy a cheap tool to do the job once, often results in broken parts or wasted materials because you were too cheap or impatient to do it right/get it done right...
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From: carter lake ia.
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Sherm and Jack, I agree to, buy quality now and you don't have to buy for a while. I used to only buy Craftsmen tools until lately. It seemed that I was breaking a lot of sockets on things that did not break earlier. I them started checking and found out that now a lot of the Craftsmens sockets and rachets are now made in China. Quality went out the window and those Craftsmen tools went into the trash. Snap-on is just too expensive and you are just buying a name. I started buying my hand tools from Lowe's over the past few years. I cannot think of the name right now, but they are quality tools, not expensive and they do have a replacement warranty. Break it and take it to Lowe's and they will replace it on the spot, no questions ask. I had to use a 19 mm deepwell base socket on an impact wrench. I know that it was a no no. After breaking loose about twenty bolts the socket started to expand to the point that it was close to a 20 mm. I took it to Lowe's, the tool man knew what I had done, but smile and gave me a new on, then sold me an impact set for about 45% off of retail. Just to get my future business. And guess what, he did. I bought an entire new set from him later on.
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well sharon, i gotta dissagree with your female logic... if you only got to do the job once, find a GOOD QUALITY tool to rent or borrow, or get someone else to do the job. using the female logic, buy a cheap tool to do the job once, often results in broken parts or wasted materials because you were too cheap or impatient to do it right/get it done right...
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From: carter lake ia.
kobalt tools paul.
i bought a set of 1/2" drive deep impact sockets back in the late 80's that i still have and i've never broken one. and i think i gave 20$ for the set from harbor freight.
i have all sorts of brands and used all sorts of brands of tools and broken some of the more spendier brands in my day. thank god for a warranty. i have a 1/2" drive bluepoint
air impact thats rated at 800 ft.lbs.reverse and 750 forward it will twist bolts off if your not carefull.
i guess over the years i have boughten 40,000$ worth of tools. and thats for boxes hand tools,cordless,and air tools. and i'd like to say that i'm a proffesional mechanic.
and have been for many years.
i bought a set of 1/2" drive deep impact sockets back in the late 80's that i still have and i've never broken one. and i think i gave 20$ for the set from harbor freight.
i have all sorts of brands and used all sorts of brands of tools and broken some of the more spendier brands in my day. thank god for a warranty. i have a 1/2" drive bluepoint
air impact thats rated at 800 ft.lbs.reverse and 750 forward it will twist bolts off if your not carefull.
i guess over the years i have boughten 40,000$ worth of tools. and thats for boxes hand tools,cordless,and air tools. and i'd like to say that i'm a proffesional mechanic.
and have been for many years.
