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Old Jan 3, 2026 | 12:14 AM
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Back to the dual fuel pump installation.

Today I managed to get in an hour of shop time.

Got the dual 1/2” lines run from the sump to the pre-filter.


It’s tight running twin 1/2” lines up between the frame and the tank. Crappy picture, bad lighting.


Better lighting.

The relay/fuse box showed up today. I wasn’t expecting it to be this big. Looks to be the size of 1/2 a red brick.

Line break between pictures to appease the grumpy old man from Oklahoma.



Gotta figure out where I’m going to mount this beast.

Tomorrow’s problems.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2026 | 02:32 PM
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Got it figured.

It will be mounted just below the master cylinder off the under hood fuse box bracket.









Trigger wires and fuel pump feeds will be routed out the back. Power in and ground will run out the front.

The blue wires are for future use if ever needed and are all fused as well. I’m going to pull those fuses from the box so they are just dead wires and loom them up and out of the way.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2026 | 05:36 PM
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One sump dual outlet, dual pumps, dual lines. Single feed into the engine.
Anyone see a problem here? When does one of the dual feed lines becomes a return line?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2026 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyperpasta
One sump dual outlet, dual pumps, dual lines. Single feed into the engine.
Anyone see a problem here? When does one of the dual feed lines becomes a return line?
For now I’m retaining the factory fuel pressure regulator and return line.

If I find that the feed is overwhelming the factory setup then I’ll have to do it differently for the regulator and return.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2026 | 06:30 PM
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Fuel line is done.



Wiring is completed besides the connections to the fuel pumps. Was waiting all day on the wire boots to show up. Of course 10 minutes after I packed it in and cleaned up they arrived.

Grounded to the firewall.
Grounded to the firewall.
Wire loom routed and zip tied.
Wire loom routed and zip tied.
Nice and clean.
Nice and clean.
Just the grounds and +12v to finish this off.
Just the grounds and +12v to finish this off.
Lookee what I got. These fit like a glove onto the fuel pump. The wire side of the boot is stepped so I will need to trim it to accommodate the 12ga. Doesn’t look like there’s enough girth to use a heat shrink on the eyes.
Lookee what I got. These fit like a glove onto the fuel pump. The wire side of the boot is stepped so I will need to trim it to accommodate the 12ga. Doesn’t look like there’s enough girth to use a heat shrink on the eyes.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2026 | 09:56 PM
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As you have setup you system, everything should flow in a forward direction towards the engine. What happens when a pump takes a dump? I know these pumps are super reliable, but what happens to the fuel flow direction? Consider the fuel regulator as a restriction to over come and now you have a dead pump. How does the single pump filtration flow/pressurize the lines?
 

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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyperpasta
As you have setup you system, everything should flow in a forward direction towards the engine. What happens when a pump takes a dump? I know these pumps are super reliable, but what happens to the fuel flow direction? Consider the fuel regulator as a restriction to over come and now you have a dead pump. How does the single pump filtration flow/pressurize the lines?

Beauty thing about these Bosch pumps is there is a built in check valve so the system doesn’t bleed down. If one pump goes down I’ll see the pressure drop under load but it should still have enough pressure for drivability.

I will test the system with both pumps running simultaneously, then cut power to each pump independently to confirm my theory.

There is a very long story previous to going down this current rabbit hole. I won’t get into all of it now. Go back in this thread and read the back story.

I installed the Riff Raff black spring and initially had 68Lbs fuel pressure but saw that drop over time to about 62. Under heavy load it’s dropping 7-10 lbs. Yes brand new filters, yes confirmed with a mechanical gauge.

Saw a picture on the internet. I got a spare pump in my tool box so… what the heck. Rabbit hole here I come.

Is it going to work flawlessly, I dunno.
Is it going to overwhelm my return line system, I dunno.
Am I going to find out, you betcha I am,
and I will figure out how to deal with it if there is an issue.

Edit: And if I do have an issue with the system as currently designed and installed it will be documented here along with the remedy for all future readers.
 

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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 09:16 AM
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So, I've got a question here. You're doing 2 pumps not because you need the volume, but for redundancy?

With a check valve in ea pump, if one dies, how would you know? Do you have an indicator that I missed?

If one does die you'll keep driving until the other dies and still be left on the side of the road w/o some kind of indication that the first pump has failed.

It might almost be better if they didn't have a check valve and instead had manual valves. So if one fails the truck stops and you're forced to isolate the bad pump via a manual valve - so you then know and can take preemptive action.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by F350towing
you betcha
Oh yah.



Nice work sir. I look forward to the results.
 

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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshHefnerX
So, I've got a question here. You're doing 2 pumps not because you need the volume, but for redundancy?

It is actually for increased volume. My hope is that it will hold pressure under heavy load and I won’t see the drop of 7-10 Lbs.

With a check valve in ea pump, if one dies, how would you know? Do you have an indicator that I missed?

With the single pump it was dropping pressure under load. Hoping that with the current setup if a pump goes down I will see it on my fuel pressure gauge.

If one does die you'll keep driving until the other dies and still be left on the side of the road w/o some kind of indication that the first pump has failed.

Pressure drop under load will be my indicator.

It might almost be better if they didn't have a check valve and instead had manual valves. So if one fails the truck stops and you're forced to isolate the bad pump via a manual valve - so you then know and can take preemptive action.

Check valve is integral with the factory fuel pump so no way to get around that.
Hope this answers your questions.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 08:23 PM
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Thanks, wasn't seeing the whole picture on what started this. Thought it may have been related to a failure... But makes sense.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by F350towing
Beauty thing about these Bosch pumps is there is a built in check valve so the system doesn’t bleed down. If one pump goes down I’ll see the pressure drop under load but it should still have enough pressure for drivability.

I will test the system with both pumps running simultaneously, then cut power to each pump independently to confirm my theory.

There is a very long story previous to going down this current rabbit hole. I won’t get into all of it now. Go back in this thread and read the back story.

I installed the Riff Raff black spring and initially had 68Lbs fuel pressure but saw that drop over time to about 62. Under heavy load it’s dropping 7-10 lbs. Yes brand new filters, yes confirmed with a mechanical gauge.

Saw a picture on the internet. I got a spare pump in my tool box so… what the heck. Rabbit hole here I come.

Is it going to work flawlessly, I dunno.
Is it going to overwhelm my return line system, I dunno.
Am I going to find out, you betcha I am,
and I will figure out how to deal with it if there is an issue.

Edit: And if I do have an issue with the system as currently designed and installed it will be documented here along with the remedy for all future readers.

That's great!
I had no idea the the OEM pumps had a check valve built into them, your golden then.
Well done!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2026 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SixToV8
The RR FPx and HPx kits are solid for tightening up fuel delivery and sealing weak points, but you’ll get the most bang for your buck by fixing the plenum leak first and then moving to the hutch and harpoon upgrades. Once those are in place, a good scan tool from (Moderator Note: Commercial Advertising Link Positioned here is removed, while AI sourced text content is left extant so that readers can understand the context of F350Towing's response) can help you verify that boost, EGT and fuel pressure stay within spec after each change. Keep an eye on fuel pressure stability and any lingering MAP leaks—they’re often the hidden culprits that bite you later.
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Your quite late to the party.

FRX, Fuel delivery lines from bowl to heads Hutch and Harpoon, and Plenum Reseal with Riff Raff inserts were all done somewhere around 4 years ago. I'm using FORscan to monitor and scan for codes when required.

Fuel Pressure, Boost, EGT, TFT, ECT, Oil pressure and Rear diff temps are all monitored off of wired gauges. It's all in my signature.

Appreciate the info though, and welcome to FTE.

Edit: and it appears that a see-ya is also in order. Damn Ai. I thought that post was weird but I didn’t want to be rude.
 

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KOEO test has been completed on the fuel pump system.
Rear pump only
Rear pump only
Front pump only
Front pump only
Dual pumps
Dual pumps


Riff Raff Black spring in the FPR and factory fuel bowl return line.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2026 | 05:31 PM
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KOER and the FP increases I guess because the voltage increases.

I’m going to try the Riff Raff gold spring and see if that drops it to where I want it to be.

Little high for my liking.
Little high for my liking.
 
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