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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 05:54 PM
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I thought you were bored 0.020”? 3.760”
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 05:55 PM
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Tomorrow I will install my Blue Top steering gear and wait on Sweeting’s hose kit to arrive.


This International Red enamel should add at least 5 horsepower...

Main piston seal removed

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Pirate Jack contact information for the hydroboost rebuild kit.

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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 06:05 PM
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I thought you were bored 0.020”? 3.760”
I am, that was a fat finger typing on my phone. I was just testing you...haha
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartwig
This is a great project. I'm sure you'll do the work professionally. I am very interested in the upgraded hydroboost because my camper with 6.5 metric tons brakes too badly. Would it be ok for you if I opened a separate thread for this?
Can you please explain to me why you put the block vertically and do not rotate around the transverse axis as usual?
I borrowed this engine stand from a member last year and ended up buying it for $250. He owns a metal fabrication business and built it to hold his engine with the transmission on it because he pulled the engine and transmission together. If I had the stand that holds it from the ends I might have had clearance issues installing the camshaft.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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Going off the engine mounts allows us to access all sides and components on the motor.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 08:12 PM
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Thank you for the tapered piston compressor tool recommendation Jack, I wish I had started with it...

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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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When you said you pulled everything apart I was thinking I should have not showed those and just left you to learn the tool.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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I think any first time homebrew engine assembly should start practicing on a junk block with junk pistons, rings and crank to figure it out. A high dollar, pristine, freshly machined block isn’t ideal...this is what I learned. Nothing is compromised so it’s a lesson learned! You and many others on this forum have been awesome to learn from and I have to give you guys a shout out for it.
I found a nice piece of reference material on hydroboost units. I had no idea AutoZone had these available. I also have the Ford repair manuals on my laptop and will look at it on there tomorrow.

https://www.autozone.com/repairguide...00c152800a85f5
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
I think any first time homebrew engine assembly should start practicing on a junk block with junk pistons, rings and crank to figure it out. A high dollar, pristine, freshly machined block isn’t ideal...this is what I learned. Nothing is compromised so it’s a lesson learned! You and many others on this forum have been awesome to learn from and I have to give you guys a shout out for it.
I found a nice piece of reference material on hydroboost units. I had no idea AutoZone had these available. I also have the Ford repair manuals on my laptop and will look at it on there tomorrow.

https://www.autozone.com/repairguide...00c152800a85f5
Nice find and great info. I'm still not sure if I want to try the rebuild or buy new. RockAuto has the Motorcraft for $280. I did see on Sweeting's website they sell Bosch and say they can generate up to 1,200 to 2000psi at the calipers. I wonder if that is better than the Motorcraft?
 
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Rings can be the biggest PITA. Just take your time (not as much as I take), and if unsure, research. Once you get the short block together, you've got the rest down from prior. YOU GOT THIS!!!!

Now that you have time, here's another video, around 7 minutes in you can see how they bolt on the heads, all fasteners torqued evenly at the same time. You just need 10 friends with torque wrenches. It's a common practice, but it still didn't help the 6.0.



 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 10:33 PM
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....... they can generate up to 1,200 to 2000psi at the calipers. I wonder if that is better than the Motorcraft?
Stock, in a normal panic stop you create 1,600 psi and more at the calipers with a hydroboost Superduty. A vacuum boosted Superduty, not so easy.











 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Stock, in a normal panic stop you create 1,600 psi and more at the calipers with a hydroboost Superduty. A vacuum boosted Superduty, not so easy.


Thanks for the info. I think I'll go with the Motorcraft since it's $200 less than that Bosch.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 11:05 PM
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In a panic stop, NHTSA has recorded off-the-street people (not test drivers) pushing 200 lbs on the pedal. Even at 150lbs on the pedal, the FMVSS limit, a hydro gets you 500psi more than a vac. No brainer which vehicle is better to have in a panic stop. With an F-350 loaded to GVW, we routinely generated tire skids at about 60lb pedal effort, warm brakes to NHTSA's targeted brake temp.

The consumer, and that includes this community, often likes a lower pedal effort than stock. And the easiest way to do that is to buy brake pads with a higher coefficient of friction, Powerstrop Z23 is the easy way to do that. Pads, not rotors. Z36 is getting up there.

This brake stuff should get moved out of here by a mod.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 11:22 PM
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Naa, don’t worry about that Jack it’s all about our trucks and pertains to the work I’m doing on mine in this thread. I’m all for good information just not the negativity one or two members have brought in the past talking down like we are all idiots bragging about owning their own shop etc.
It’s not the pump that Sweeting’s lines upgrade, it’s the size of the orifice coming out the high pressure fittings that allows more flow. What Matt told me on the phone goes hand in hand with their videos. No matter how much pressure the pump puts out the orifice is restricting flow. We will see how well this upgrade works because I have fairly new full stainless brake lines, Powerstop rotors and heavy duty pads as well as a new Motorcraft master cylinder, “resealed” hydroboost, new power steering pump and steering gear. The only thing I didn’t get are new calipers but I did go through them again just a couple of months ago.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Rings can be the biggest PITA. Just take your time (not as much as I take), and if unsure, research. Once you get the short block together, you've got the rest down from prior. YOU GOT THIS!!!!

Now that you have time, here's another video, around 7 minutes in you can see how they bolt on the heads, all fasteners torqued evenly at the same time. You just need 10 friends with torque wrenches. It's a common practice, but it still didn't help the 6.0.

https://youtu.be/F6NZ-pj56JU
I don’t have that many friends willing or able...I also live out in the sticks!
I’ll have another chance at the exact same rebuild with Razzi’s truck soon after mine so that will be two in a row under my belt in short order.
 
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