Build Progress - VIN's and build dates
Hotshot
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: NH
Are you sure that's isn't for the Ohio
truck Plant?
As per Donlen, footnote #4 they don't start production until Aug 15.
Ford-Lincoln Trucks (Build Out Final Order Start Up Dates) - Donlen Corporation
truck Plant?
As per Donlen, footnote #4 they don't start production until Aug 15.
Ford-Lincoln Trucks (Build Out Final Order Start Up Dates) - Donlen Corporation
Junior User
Joined: May 2016
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From: N Alberta
We all know that. The posted document makes no reference as to whether it is for pickups or CC. It's why I asked the question and provided a possible explanation.
Hotshot
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From: NH
Sorry, no offense meant. He said earlier it was a 350 XLT 6.7 loaded up. I guess it could be a c/c, but likely a pickup.
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ok so heres what ive been told,there are no trucks being built in july,i ordered mine on 4/22 i was told that the truck will be at the dealer if im lucky by November.....i ordered two trucks because its my work truck so its imperative that it gets here fast! so we ordered one dealer stock,and one is customer purchase or whatever you want to call it.. both trucks identical, whichever truck arrives first is mine,the other will get a change if color or cancelled order....and because i custom oredered or built the truck im promised by the dealer the other truck will not be on his lot....(we live in a small community and dont need my competition having the same truck)....im pissed because i originally was told the truck would be here by the earliest Aug and the latest oct...
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ok so heres what ive been told,there are no trucks being built in july,i ordered mine on 4/22 i was told that the truck will be at the dealer if im lucky by November.....i ordered two trucks because its my work truck so its imperative that it gets here fast! so we ordered one dealer stock,and one is customer purchase or whatever you want to call it.. both trucks identical, whichever truck arrives first is mine,the other will get a change if color or cancelled order....and because i custom oredered or built the truck im promised by the dealer the other truck will not be on his lot....(we live in a small community and dont need my competition having the same truck)....im pissed because i originally was told the truck would be here by the earliest Aug and the latest oct...
Hotshot
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From: NH
Is yours a stock or retail order, rutcutter?
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i was told that the truck will be at the dealer if im lucky by November
Such is life of the retail order. But I refuse to be a stock order guinea pig. Here's to getting a good one from the factory, whenever it comes in.
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From: Iowa
Oh well I guess they will come when they come. Given I have a firm price on my 2015 350 dually trade in it just means the dealer is getting screwed by Ford by delaying the release. As long as Ford stands behind the "stock order guinea pig" I am not too worried. As always their reputation is also on the line and I kind of like the idea of being at the front of the line. To each their own.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Hot Springs
Mine is a Retail order.. Hopefully I can look back on this post an say I was right here in a few months... Lol
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Hot Springs
Oh well I guess they will come when they come. Given I have a firm price on my 2015 350 dually trade in it just means the dealer is getting screwed by Ford by delaying the release. As long as Ford stands behind the "stock order guinea pig" I am not too worried. As always their reputation is also on the line and I kind of like the idea of being at the front of the line. To each their own.
How did the dealer give you a "Firm Price" on your trade in so far in advance?
Cargo Master
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,336
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From: Western New York
The forum here is good and most information is correct. But then again there are the rumors in the industry which sometimes get posted as well and sometimes conjecture. Many of the dealers know less than the regular members of the forum although that is not always the case. Dealers often have inside news they cannot release and then again some of their facts are rumors. Many will tell us what we want to hear and some just report the year old mantra "available late 2016." I guess we will know when the first one comes down the ramp at the first lucky dealership. Maybe, like a pregnancy, someone could do an ultrasound on KTP and tell when its due, but no matter how many women we put on the job, other than the first one, they all take 9 months (this is an analogy not meant to state the first truck will take 9 months).
For those who are interested:
Here is some news from the OHAP (Ohio Assembly Plant) with dates of their tentative production schedule for the cab/chassis. I cannot find a newsletter for the KTP where the pickups will be built. They did add 2000 jobs and 1.3 billion investment in the Louisville plant.
https://www.at.ford.com/content/atfo...available.html
2
Page 2
Moving Toward Job One with Super Duty Build
Continued from front page
A potential launch of a new or current product begins
with plans to build
that
product. Depending on how
many years of service an employee has with Ford, they
may have been through this process a dozen or more
times. But for newer employees, the process can be a
bit confusing, even complicated. Let’s take a look at
how a product goes from concept to car, or truck, in
Ohio Assembly Plant’s case.
A new product or vehicle launch follows a specific
cadence and standard. One set
-
forth and controlled
by both the Company, its top
-
level and local
-
level
management, as well as national and local Union
leadership. Specific people with important titles notify
the plant manager and building union chairman about
the possibility of a new product being made at their fa-
cility. From there, many meetings are held, responsi-
bilities given out, and the plan set in motion. “It’s a
really well done standard, and by following it, you will
be assured that when we review our critical gateways,
we are providing world class quality for our customers,”
explained Gary Johnson, Ford’s VP of Manufacturing
for North America.
When following the product build and launch timeline,
normally a plant’s Launch Manager, along with another
area manager, will take the lead on the project
–
with
oversight from the plant manager and plant’s director
of manufacturing (DOM). In OHAP’s building of the
Super Duty, it’s Chris Habermehl (Launch) and Tony
Serra (Body Area Manager). Before anything can be
built, lots of upfront work needs to be done. Assembly
lines need to be re
-
tooled, with more workstations,
sometimes entire plants get overhauled. Teams of
employees are often sent to other plants to watch and
learn different build phases of the vehicle being made.
“It’s an investment of tens of millions of dollars
–
sometimes more than a billion,” said Serra.
Once all the necessary improvements and challenges
have been fulfilled, it’s time to begin the many phases
of the build.
Build Phases for Product Launch
VP:
Verification Prototype
—
first build at
the prototype plant
TT:
Tooling Trial
—
Initial Product/Process
Capability Assessment
PP:
Pilot Production
—
Verification &
Validation of Salable Production
MP1:
Mass Production Phase 1
—
Final
Production Feasibility Assessment
MP2:
Mass Production Phase 2
—
Production Ramp
-
up (Job ONE)
OKTB:
Okay To Buy
—
Okay to ship to
dealers
For those who are interested:
Here is some news from the OHAP (Ohio Assembly Plant) with dates of their tentative production schedule for the cab/chassis. I cannot find a newsletter for the KTP where the pickups will be built. They did add 2000 jobs and 1.3 billion investment in the Louisville plant.
https://www.at.ford.com/content/atfo...available.html
2
Page 2
Moving Toward Job One with Super Duty Build
Continued from front page
A potential launch of a new or current product begins
with plans to build
that
product. Depending on how
many years of service an employee has with Ford, they
may have been through this process a dozen or more
times. But for newer employees, the process can be a
bit confusing, even complicated. Let’s take a look at
how a product goes from concept to car, or truck, in
Ohio Assembly Plant’s case.
A new product or vehicle launch follows a specific
cadence and standard. One set
-
forth and controlled
by both the Company, its top
-
level and local
-
level
management, as well as national and local Union
leadership. Specific people with important titles notify
the plant manager and building union chairman about
the possibility of a new product being made at their fa-
cility. From there, many meetings are held, responsi-
bilities given out, and the plan set in motion. “It’s a
really well done standard, and by following it, you will
be assured that when we review our critical gateways,
we are providing world class quality for our customers,”
explained Gary Johnson, Ford’s VP of Manufacturing
for North America.
When following the product build and launch timeline,
normally a plant’s Launch Manager, along with another
area manager, will take the lead on the project
–
with
oversight from the plant manager and plant’s director
of manufacturing (DOM). In OHAP’s building of the
Super Duty, it’s Chris Habermehl (Launch) and Tony
Serra (Body Area Manager). Before anything can be
built, lots of upfront work needs to be done. Assembly
lines need to be re
-
tooled, with more workstations,
sometimes entire plants get overhauled. Teams of
employees are often sent to other plants to watch and
learn different build phases of the vehicle being made.
“It’s an investment of tens of millions of dollars
–
sometimes more than a billion,” said Serra.
Once all the necessary improvements and challenges
have been fulfilled, it’s time to begin the many phases
of the build.
Build Phases for Product Launch
VP:
Verification Prototype
—
first build at
the prototype plant
TT:
Tooling Trial
—
Initial Product/Process
Capability Assessment
PP:
Pilot Production
—
Verification &
Validation of Salable Production
MP1:
Mass Production Phase 1
—
Final
Production Feasibility Assessment
MP2:
Mass Production Phase 2
—
Production Ramp
-
up (Job ONE)
OKTB:
Okay To Buy
—
Okay to ship to
dealers