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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by F-250 restorer

The only issue I've had with them is that one interferes with the valve cover--which is Cliffy. Stock cover may not hit.
Is your set the hex nuts or the 12 point? I'm going 12-point on mine. I think the 12-point nuts will give a little more clearance.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 11:36 PM
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It's been some time since I troubled with it, but iirc it was the tip of the stud that hit the v.cover.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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I thought the Clifford cover had a lot more clearance than the stock one, so that's really strange that they'd hit.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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I thought the Clifford cover had a lot more clearance than the stock one, so that's really strange that they'd hit.
I'm sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. The cliff v.cover is taller than the oem cover. So there are no problems with the rocker arms or the ARP rocker studs hitting. However, one of the ARP studs that secures the head to the block, does hit on the mounting lip (where the bolts go to hold the v.cover to the head) of the Clifford v.cover. Only one hits. I simply removed a bit of aluminum from the underside of the lip where it used to hit. Now it does not affect the seal.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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No worries, that makes sense. I thought it was just a height thing.



So, stopped by again this morning to drop off the spacer ring for the cam so that he could get the cam dialed in.

The crank was laid in and turned nice and smooth, so no need to worry about the bearing tolerances. It turned great.

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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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Looks good. Did you Plastigage the bearing clearances or bore mic them?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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I'm curious about the roll pin beside #7 and #5 main caps in the first photo. What is their purpose? They are not present on my block/engine. Are they to help position?

Oh, and it all looks great.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Frenchtown Flyer
Looks good. Did you Plastigage the bearing clearances or bore mic them?
It was done with a bore mic. He already had it down at his shop and only wanted $30 to do all the bearing clearances, and there was still more work to be done after they were measured, so I just had him do it so I didn't have to bring it home and back. Plus, a bore mic seems like it'd be a bit more accurate than a plastigauge, which is all I'd do.

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I'm curious about the roll pin beside #7 and #5 main caps in the first photo. What is their purpose? They are not present on my block/engine. Are they to help position?

Oh, and it all looks great.
I don't recall the purpose of those. A few other engines I've had have had those, but I don't recall if they were on 5 and 7, or on different bearing caps.

FTF, do you know what those are for?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 09:36 PM
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Based on what I've read here it appears you have a very competent machinist. The roll pins provide a little lateral preload on the caps to insure proper alignment.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2016 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The Frenchtown Flyer
Based on what I've read here it appears you have a very competent machinist. The roll pins provide a little lateral preload on the caps to insure proper alignment.
Is that something Ford did only on certain years? I have a '75 and they are absent.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2016 | 03:25 PM
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Looking great AB, it seems you are at about the same stage of reassembly that I am with mine. Could you do me a favor? After the crank gear is installed, could you measure the distance between the back of the gear and the face of the block? I have mine installed and I'm not certain that mine is set completely back far enough. It would seem that the gear is meant to "bottom out" on the radius fillet on the crank, but I have no what of knowing if I'm back that far or not.
I heated the gear and it did slip on farther than when cold, but in no way "dropped right on" as is claimed by many. I had to use the balancer and the snout bolt to get it to go on as far as it did. Extremely difficult and I finally stopped when I hit 140 ft lbs on my torque wrench, but it seems like it should go back further?
I have about 1.84 mm behind my gear.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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Hey AB man looks like you are doing a nice rebuild. I have read through a ton of threads on here and all over the innerweb trying to decide which way to go with my rebuild. I have a '72-240,81-300,85-300 engine. I was looking at doing something similar to what you are doing. Man does it get confusing when everybody starts talking numbers. I enjoy all the input from you and everybody else. I wish I had a local shop like you got there. I was thinking of boring the 300 block and using my 240 head. I am still up in the air one whether upsize the valves. I will keep reading your post and listening to everybody's input.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarheel Blue
Looking great AB, it seems you are at about the same stage of reassembly that I am with mine. Could you do me a favor? After the crank gear is installed, could you measure the distance between the back of the gear and the face of the block? I have mine installed and I'm not certain that mine is set completely back far enough. It would seem that the gear is meant to "bottom out" on the radius fillet on the crank, but I have no what of knowing if I'm back that far or not.
I heated the gear and it did slip on farther than when cold, but in no way "dropped right on" as is claimed by many. I had to use the balancer and the snout bolt to get it to go on as far as it did. Extremely difficult and I finally stopped when I hit 140 ft lbs on my torque wrench, but it seems like it should go back further?
I have about 1.84 mm behind my gear.

There should be a chamferred spacer ring, sometimes referred to as the "wedding band", that slips over the cam (chamfer facing rearwards) that is a few thou thicker than the thrust retainer plate. This sets the fore/aft movement of the cam around .002 - .006". It is not unheard of for an assembler to leave out that critical wedding band.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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Thanks FTF, my cam and gear is assembled correctly with the "wedding band", what I'm asking about is the crank gear. Trying to make sure that it is set deep enough on the snout.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The Frenchtown Flyer
Based on what I've read here it appears you have a very competent machinist. The roll pins provide a little lateral preload on the caps to insure proper alignment.
Well, he doesn't have the license plate EGNBLDR on his truck for nothing.
But yeah, the guy's a pro. I'm really thankful to have stumbled upon him as he really knows his stuff, which is especially helpful when I'm not doing a stock build and am picking and mixing parts.
 
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