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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 04:51 PM
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Exclamation Walk around inspection at every stop

Walk around your rig at every stop. Our Tire Pressure Monitoring System showed no anomalies - never more than 5° over ambient.

I messaged with the resident towing Sherpa @WE3ZS because I remembered him having a similar situation, and he concurred that it was "belt separation" .




What my son saw



What I saw after removing the wheel.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 05:21 PM
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My wife thinks I'm paranoid because I check every time we stop, I'm going to show her this.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mecdac
Walk around your rig at every stop. Our Tire Pressure Monitoring System showed no anomalies - never more than 5° over ambient.

I messaged with the resident towing Sherpa @WE3ZS because I remembered him having a similar situation, and he concurred that it was "belt separation" .




What my son saw



What I saw after removing the wheel.

It looks like a belt broke causing the tire to get physically distorted, which then led to very accelerated wear on the inside edge of the tread. As more internal damage took place the tread started to chunk off as the distortion became too great to stay attached. Look how round that tread face is, it should be flat across!
I have had a total of 5 ST tires that died in very similar ways, two actually looked worse. And none of them lost any air and the two that went after we installed the TPMS didn't get hot enough to trigger the alarm.
How old is that tire Mark? My most recent ones were 2 years and 40 weeks or so, they didn't even last to the super conservative 3 year replacement interval recommended by some.
My tires are always covered when we are home and the air pressure is checked before every trip and monitored under way with the TPMS.
What are your plans Mark? Are you contemplating some upgrades in either weight ratings, speed ratings or sizes? I went with a good amount of overkill on my TT with the hub/drum and wheel upgrade from 6 to 8 lugs and the crazy tough Load Range G Sailun S637 tires. So far with about 5k miles since March they have done very well.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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Finally went camping the last few days. Went to an area that was strip mined in the 60's to 80's that has been reforested and reclaimed. Power company owns the land and the camping is free in their campgrounds. They have tables, garbage cans, and some rank pit toilets. Huge sites, this campground stretched for a couple miles along a pond. No electric, good test for my new battery system. No dump station either, but it was free camping.

Also saw the shovel from the world's largest dragline they were using to mine the area. That's my wee lil EX in the parking lot.








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Bluegill fishing was good
Is that in McConnellsville?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
It looks like a belt broke causing the tire to get physically distorted, which then led to very accelerated wear on the inside edge of the tread. As more internal damage took place the tread started to chunk off as the distortion became too great to stay attached. Look how round that tread face is, it should be flat across!
I have had a total of 5 ST tires that died in very similar ways, two actually looked worse. And none of them lost any air and the two that went after we installed the TPMS didn't get hot enough to trigger the alarm.
How old is that tire Mark? My most recent ones were 2 years and 40 weeks or so, they didn't even last to the super conservative 3 year replacement interval recommended by some.
My tires are always covered when we are home and the air pressure is checked before every trip and monitored under way with the TPMS.
What are your plans Mark? Are you contemplating some upgrades in either weight ratings, speed ratings or sizes? I went with a good amount of overkill on my TT with the hub/drum and wheel upgrade from 6 to 8 lugs and the crazy tough Load Range G Sailun S637 tires. So far with about 5k miles since March they have done very well.
This particular tire was dated "3513" I knew that when I bought the TT and my plans were to replace them before my annual pilgrimage to SoDak in the fall.

The TT is 2015 MY meaning it could have been built as early as March 2014.

I'm going up to load range D, while I like the idea of larger axles et al we are probably going to keep this rig 4-5 years and then either go to a 5er or a Class A.

Tires already ordered I'll have them, balanced with steel valve stems and do a walk around at each stop.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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Is it possible you had the inside tire wear, which caused the separation? Is the inside of the tire worn on the other side of the axle? Just asking because this happened to me on a previous TT. The axle was underrated, and it bent, causing both tires to wear excessively on the inside. I didn't notice right away, because I had to stick my head under the trailer in order to see the wear.

Originally Posted by mecdac
Walk around your rig at every stop. Our Tire Pressure Monitoring System showed no anomalies - never more than 5° over ambient.

I messaged with the resident towing Sherpa @WE3ZS because I remembered him having a similar situation, and he concurred that it was "belt separation" .




What my son saw



What I saw after removing the wheel.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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This past weekend was the first time I have pulled with my new 10 Ply Maxxis tires. I noticed the tires flexed less than they did with the OEM Constancy tires.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Used my trailer over the 4th, the Ex was my tow pig since my F150 is still in the shop. Everything worked great and we had a wonderful time. I had to switch propane bottles at 2:30am when one ran out haha but otherwise the old trailer held its own.



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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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Cold enough to need heat there this time of year still?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ExxWhy
Cold enough to need heat there this time of year still?
The low the that night was 39f high on the 4th was 64f we were right by the Glacier though. So, yes heat was required at night as we all like it to be 70f or so

It's been a more normal year, most rain/overcast with cooler (normal) daytime high temps in high 50s to mid 60s. Yesterday we hit 70!! Heatwave!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jasoncw
Is it possible you had the inside tire wear, which caused the separation? Is the inside of the tire worn on the other side of the axle? Just asking because this happened to me on a previous TT. The axle was underrated, and it bent, causing both tires to wear excessively on the inside. I didn't notice right away, because I had to stick my head under the trailer in order to see the wear.
No, not possible.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Cold enough to need heat there this time of year still?
Depends on elevation too.

I camped last summer in July at about 6500 feet in California. It got down into the mid 30's at night.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2017 | 12:36 PM
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The low the that night was 39f high on the 4th was 64f we were right by the Glacier though. So, yes heat was required at night as we all like it to be 70f or so

It's been a more normal year, most rain/overcast with cooler (normal) daytime high temps in high 50s to mid 60s. Yesterday we hit 70!! Heatwave!
Originally Posted by andym
Depends on elevation too.

I camped last summer in July at about 6500 feet in California. It got down into the mid 30's at night.
Yes, a lil heat would be nice when it's in the 30's. I was figuring the elevation wouldn't be too high where Russ was.

The last time I was tent camping, we stopped in a place in Colorado right around 10K in late June. 85 degrees during the day. Snowed an inch overnight, dish bucket frozen solid. 1992 I think!
 
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Old Jul 7, 2017 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ExxWhy
Yes, a lil heat would be nice when it's in the 30's. I was figuring the elevation wouldn't be too high where Russ was.

The last time I was tent camping, we stopped in a place in Colorado right around 10K in late June. 85 degrees during the day. Snowed an inch overnight, dish bucket frozen solid. 1992 I think!
Elevation is a non-issue. We might have been 500ft over sea level. Most places in AK on the road system are not all that high relatively. The highest elevation I've ever driven through was 4,400ft off the Denali Highway a few summers ago.

But I was about 2 miles from a large Glacier, which does effect temps a lot!
 
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