issues getting engine swap to run, help.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
once you match the distro and valve timing. I doubt they could hurt it that fast
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Okay, so we put the engine at TDC on the compression stroke, tried starting it and it hickups sometimes, but won't start, and it looks like the 4th of July on top of my carb with all the flames/backfiring shootin out of it. When we stabbed the distributor, we put the rotor at #1 while the engine was at TDC.
While I'm turning the engine over, Andrew is rotating the distributor to try and find a spot where it will even kind of run, it seems to help a bit, but not enough to get it to run at all. We have the PCV vent on the carb just open to the atmosphere, that shouldn't keep it from starting as that's just to make things more efficient.
I'm using a Mr. Gasket fuel pump that pushed 5-7 PSI. Yet again, we're at a loss here.
While I'm turning the engine over, Andrew is rotating the distributor to try and find a spot where it will even kind of run, it seems to help a bit, but not enough to get it to run at all. We have the PCV vent on the carb just open to the atmosphere, that shouldn't keep it from starting as that's just to make things more efficient.
I'm using a Mr. Gasket fuel pump that pushed 5-7 PSI. Yet again, we're at a loss here.
Ford Windsor (289, 302, 5.0, 5.0HO, 351) Firing Order & Cylinder numbers
Also make sure by rotating the crank one way then the other and watching the distributor rotor that you don't have excessive play in the timing chain and sprockets.
Fords are a bit persnickety to timing chain variations.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
I've been following this thread from the beginning and am sorry to hear you couldn't got the EFI straightened out but concerning your firing order be sure it wired to the correct firing order , there are two for the SBF engines-
Ford Windsor (289, 302, 5.0, 5.0HO, 351) Firing Order & Cylinder numbers
Also make sure by rotating the crank one way then the other and watching the distributor rotor that you don't have excessive play in the timing chain and sprockets.
Fords are a bit persnickety to timing chain variations.
Ford Windsor (289, 302, 5.0, 5.0HO, 351) Firing Order & Cylinder numbers
Also make sure by rotating the crank one way then the other and watching the distributor rotor that you don't have excessive play in the timing chain and sprockets.
Fords are a bit persnickety to timing chain variations.
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I just printed that one out in hopes of saving myself some heart-ache.
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Alright, we're back! So, when I googled 302 firing order, the HO version came up, I didn't know they changed it. So, we redid the firing order, restabbed the distributor just to be safe, and the truck started right up. Starts and idles great, got the TV cable on and adjusted as per the 1:1 ratio, drove down the street and it won't shift out of first gear...I tried taking more slack out of the TV cable to no avail. I don't want to loosen the cable because I don't want to fry my transmission.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
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Alright, we're back! So, when I googled 302 firing order, the HO version came up, I didn't know they changed it. So, we redid the firing order, restabbed the distributor just to be safe, and the truck started right up. Starts and idles great, got the TV cable on and adjusted as per the 1:1 ratio, drove down the street and it won't shift out of first gear...I tried taking more slack out of the TV cable to no avail. I don't want to loosen the cable because I don't want to fry my transmission.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
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before the pressure guage issue, did the tranny shift out of first gear since joe bought it? is that an inherited problem from why the thunderchicken was taken off the road? and Smitty49 is correct about the TV pressure, at least i know that if its not set correctly, you can burn up a good tranny quick...
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We don't know if the tranny ever shifted out if first. It never went fast enough, lol. I was planning on having a shop adjust it, I need to get it there first. On the up side, the engine seems to run strong. So that's good.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
before the pressure guage issue, did the tranny shift out of first gear since joe bought it? is that an inherited problem from why the thunderchicken was taken off the road? and Smitty49 is correct about the TV pressure, at least i know that if its not set correctly, you can burn up a good tranny quick...
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Eek, I'll have andrew bring home a pressure gauge monday or tuesday, then.
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Alright, we're back! So, when I googled 302 firing order, the HO version came up, I didn't know they changed it. So, we redid the firing order, restabbed the distributor just to be safe, and the truck started right up. Starts and idles great, got the TV cable on and adjusted as per the 1:1 ratio, drove down the street and it won't shift out of first gear...I tried taking more slack out of the TV cable to no avail. I don't want to loosen the cable because I don't want to fry my transmission.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
So, we're making progress, The truck starts, idles and drives under it's own power, now we need to figure out why it won't shift. GAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help, guys.
Joe and Andrew.
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So we set the pressure at idle, took a drive down the street and the tranny still doesn't shift out of first. When I put it into R or D, it goes solidly into gear, but when going down the road under heavy throttle or very light throttle it just stays in first. I'd really like to keep the AOD but I'm worried that it might be a bum transmission. I have a good C4 in the bed...There goes my OD and saved gas mileage...