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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:57 AM
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good stuff man, take lots of pics when you do the swap

well im not sure when ill be doing it yet...my chain is stretched really bad so i want it ASAP...but im low on cash as always and i was kinda hoping i could wait till the ZF 5 speed gets here and do it all at once...but ill find out monday (or try to) when ill be getting the tranny and then ill decided to either do it within a week or wait maybe a month? i dont know yet...i still need a drive shaft for the NP-205, good ole fixed yoke output...killed 2 birds with 1 stone there

and as always...there will be pics
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 03:34 AM
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78/79 broncos came with the 205 or 203, mostly 205s from what I've gathered (and owned/seen)
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 02:47 AM
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Well... here's a picture for you. I think you'll know if its a 205/203 real fast lol.

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Hahah. You'll know when you yank it if you don't already, and as Paul said, most of the bronco's i've seen have had 205's.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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yes i knew it was a 205 as soon as i saw the little 3 bolt cover on the back of the case LOL...got er most of the way appart today...gonna take it all and clean it up bit by bit...using a combination of varsol parts washer, and the big parts washer, and the sand blaster for the case, clean it up nice

0 damage anwhere in this case, even the bearings are in good shape...replacing all seals, but thats it, nothing else is worth replacing lol...the shift forks arent even worn...

couldnt get the yoke off of the output assembly in the 4th pic...gotta get if off to get at the seal, take it to work and tear it appart i guess, kinda limited as fars as tools/space here...dont even have a bench to put this thing on, i have one but its made out of wood and already had over 200lbs of tools on it so i dont think it would take another 150 lbs of tcase lol

think i should get gaskets for it?, id rather use the grey gasket maker suff we use at the shop for sealing diffs...but if gaskets are better for these things






 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Personally I prefer gaskets wherever possible, you don't have to worry about too much or too little sealant you know?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Twin sticking it when u have it all apart I hope.....
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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I believe he is. I read it somewhere. Maybe another thread?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Twin sticking it when u have it all apart I hope.....

hells yes!, looking for another shifter LOL then i gotta find a boot for it, trying to find one local if possible

ya know how the write ups on it say not to remove too much from the shift rails or you will be able to have one axle in hi and one in lo...they say thats bad (on dry hard sufaces it definately is) but would it not be the same as a mud truck running different gear ratios front and rear...looking at the case it appears that the case itself would run fine like that just gotta make sure its in something very slick or something will blow up obviously...id like that option as well LOL wouldnt have to use it very often but i bet it would save my *** at some point in time...

you got a twin sticked 205 i take it?

yeah but gaskets are more prone to failure...i have never used a gasket in the diffs...i dont like them and aviod them as much as possible lol...i have proper sealant for diffs and i know how to use it! LOL...i think i will use that where i can, i really dont trust gaskets
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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To get technical I have a tripple stick... I'm runnin a twinstick 205, behind a 203 range box. Love the fact I can unlock the rear axle and do front digs. It helps my long rig turn sharp.

Use gaskets. They won't fail in the tcase. The thing that always ends up leaking is the output seals.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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i'd really like to see a build on a twin stick t-case, sounds like a lot of work
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Its easy as pie on a 205.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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hells yes!, looking for another shifter LOL then i gotta find a boot for it, trying to find one local if possible

ya know how the write ups on it say not to remove too much from the shift rails or you will be able to have one axle in hi and one in lo...they say thats bad (on dry hard sufaces it definately is) but would it not be the same as a mud truck running different gear ratios front and rear...looking at the case it appears that the case itself would run fine like that just gotta make sure its in something very slick or something will blow up obviously...id like that option as well LOL wouldnt have to use it very often but i bet it would save my *** at some point in time...

you got a twin sticked 205 i take it?

yeah but gaskets are more prone to failure...i have never used a gasket in the diffs...i dont like them and aviod them as much as possible lol...i have proper sealant for diffs and i know how to use it! LOL...i think i will use that where i can, i really dont trust gaskets
I think the 4hi/4lo idea is a bad one - considering that the gear ratio difference would be double and mud trucks usually run one gear set difference or two at the most, a very small percentage difference and just enough to keep the truck straight and front wheels spinning faster in the pit.

But try it take pictures of the carnage for us
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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I think your better off not mismatching ratios lol.

And differentials are not transfercases lol. Although I believe there's a bit of sealant on my T-Case, but while rebuilding you ought to use a gasket, it will do just fine.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:24 AM
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To get technical I have a tripple stick... I'm runnin a twinstick 205, behind a 203 range box. Love the fact I can unlock the rear axle and do front digs. It helps my long rig turn sharp.

Use gaskets. They won't fail in the tcase. The thing that always ends up leaking is the output seals.
i was just wondering, never rebuilt a t-case before haha...repalces chains a few to many times...those days will soon be over

and i thought about the 203/205 doubler t-case but that was going a little too far, and a little too $$$$ right now, a twin stick 205 will be fine for me

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i'd really like to see a build on a twin stick t-case, sounds like a lot of work
with how empty my t-case is right now it would take about 10 min. ill take lots of pics for you LOL, i think the only other t-cases that can be twin sticked are the atlas ones? i have never even seen one of those haha

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I think the 4hi/4lo idea is a bad one - considering that the gear ratio difference would be double and mud trucks usually run one gear set difference or two at the most, a very small percentage difference and just enough to keep the truck straight and front wheels spinning faster in the pit.

But try it take pictures of the carnage for us
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I think your better off not mismatching ratios lol.

And differentials are not transfercases lol. Although I believe there's a bit of sealant on my T-Case, but while rebuilding you ought to use a gasket, it will do just fine.
yeah it didnt click in that the difference would be that great...but i have seen some pretty good seperation on soe mud trucks though....but i guess i dont really want to do the d60 swap right away so i better not do anything to blow up my 44 eh....

i got most of the case cleand up today...and the rear cover/bearing/support for the front output gearset...the inside of the cover is pretty rough in some spots, it reminds me of an old dried out tire, there are a few little surface cracks too...should probably find a new one of those eh....

that AND i found some other damage finally...theres a very small dent ont he PTO cover HAHAHA

trying to get some of the gearsets appart to inspect the bearings that are hidden in there...the one gearset seems pretty tight to spin
 
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Should come apart easy after you get all the snap rings off the shafts. And some of those bearings will fall out all over the place when u pull the gear off the shaft, but it doesn't mean they are shot. Have to pack them with grease to put them back in place. Easy, just time consuming.
 
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