Gas vs PSD
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The exhaust flow is free renewable energy which at a certain degree at demand. Yes there is lag but its because as you increase demand the exhaust level has to be produced. It just makes sense, the more need the more gas and air being spent creating more exhaust which compresses more air. Anything else you make besides a supercharger running of the crank is going to have to have a way to sense the need to increase the volume of air whatever is used to drive the turbine.
Monsterbaby, your lack of a better word was a dang good word for me. It summed it up pretty good. The spread out mocules coveres a larger area to "push".
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the heat is only an advantage in that hot air is for lack of better word "larger". when it cools off it contracts (principle that turns the engine) so as you get the turbo further away from the engine the exhaust gasses cool and slightly contract meaning less actually pushing through the restriction that is the turbine housing. BUT remember that in a turbo the two sides are connected so if you could keep the exhaust side cooler the intake side would also be cooler and thus produce denser air making more power. One of those catch 22 situations but I know some turbo gasser drag cars put the turbo at the rear bumper, yes you have more lag but the peak power is increased so they claim.
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Hey guys, it has been a while for me. Bill's mom has been keeping me busy! (sorry Bill, I needed to get that off my chest LOL)
Anyways, have I missed anything the last few months? It looks like the same arguments rehashed in the same manner. LOL But has there been another shootout or any cool magazine articles we can argue over lately?
I have missed this thread! But really I changed my work scenario and am working out of Reno while living in Spokane still, not leaving me much time.
Anyways, have I missed anything the last few months? It looks like the same arguments rehashed in the same manner. LOL But has there been another shootout or any cool magazine articles we can argue over lately?
I have missed this thread! But really I changed my work scenario and am working out of Reno while living in Spokane still, not leaving me much time.
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Monster-4 and crazy001 are in the process of organizing another truck meet on August 28th. Looks like there are going to be several different powertrains there and they're posting in the EcoBoost forum trying to get an EB truck there as well. Should be interesting.
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Monster-4 and crazy001 are in the process of organizing another truck meet on August 28th. Looks like there are going to be several different powertrains there and they're posting in the EcoBoost forum trying to get an EB truck there as well. Should be interesting.
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Yeah I really want to see a bone stock 6.0 against a bone stock 3v v10.
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Its very interresting to say the least. Grossing 20k going down the highway they pretty much average out. Of course this is running at comfertable speeds and not acting stupid. To say one is better than the other so rediculious.
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Brother I don't know why but I thought you had a 7.3. Where is the truck meet usually at? I would lovento bring the guys around here. Yall would prolly run us off. We get pretty crazy then stupid. Lmao
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I'm going to disagree here, first the V10 could max gross of 23K, verus the 6.0L which could max out at 26K in a F350 back in 2007 with 4.30 gears. That's 3,000# of towing capacity with identical trucks, other than the motors. Furthermore, take that load into a high atlitude (say over 6,000ft) the naturally asspirated V10 loses power, while the VGT in the 6.0L can adapt to that loss of oxygen. There still is a loss of power with the 6.0L Powerstroke, but it adapts better to the altitude than a gasser.
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Monster-4 and crazy001 are in the process of organizing another truck meet on August 28th. Looks like there are going to be several different powertrains there and they're posting in the EcoBoost forum trying to get an EB truck there as well. Should be interesting.
I'm going to disagree here, first the V10 could max gross of 23K, verus the 6.0L which could max out at 26K in a F350 back in 2007 with 4.30 gears. That's 3,000# of towing capacity with identical trucks, other than the motors. Furthermore, take that load into a high atlitude (say over 6,000ft) the naturally asspirated V10 loses power, while the VGT in the 6.0L can adapt to that loss of oxygen. There still is a loss of power with the 6.0L Powerstroke, but it adapts better to the altitude than a gasser.
They are both rated for the same 33,000 lbs in the F550.
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I'm going to disagree here, first the V10 could max gross of 23K, verus the 6.0L which could max out at 26K in a F350 back in 2007 with 4.30 gears. That's 3,000# of towing capacity with identical trucks, other than the motors. Furthermore, take that load into a high atlitude (say over 6,000ft) the naturally asspirated V10 loses power, while the VGT in the 6.0L can adapt to that loss of oxygen. There still is a loss of power with the 6.0L Powerstroke, but it adapts better to the altitude than a gasser.
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I'm looking at the guides for 2007, the V10 with 5.38 gears F550 - Max CGWR 26k, the 6.0L with 4.88 gears F550 - Max GCWR 33K. In 2007 the V10 doesn't match up.
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https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...trp18Aug06.pdf
I'm looking at the guides for 2007, the V10 with 5.38 gears F550 - Max CGWR 26k, the 6.0L with 4.88 gears F550 - Max GCWR 33K. In 2007 the V10 doesn't match up.
I'm looking at the guides for 2007, the V10 with 5.38 gears F550 - Max CGWR 26k, the 6.0L with 4.88 gears F550 - Max GCWR 33K. In 2007 the V10 doesn't match up.
Look closer at your chart, you take ANY of the gear ratio's and you will notice they are ALL 26,000 UNLESS you add High Capacity Trailer Tow Package. But equally setup trucks the weight is the same. the ONLY change is in the truck NOT the engines.