>I'm just curious and it has been bothering me. How is it
>that Ford can make a truck go so fast and they don't have a
>mustang to go even faster because it would look like they
>could just put the same lightning engine in a mustang and it
>would be even faster? Am I missing something? Thank ya
>much!


Read the new motor trend, they do! '03 Cobra with a 390hp supercharged 4.6. SWEEET!

 

>But when the Silverado SS comes out, I guarantee you it will spank >the Lightning. You may say that the SS may be nothing more than a >Vette with truck body on it, but thats GM for you, excellent >enginering in every category. They want the best from their >vehicles. Unlike Ford that sticks a supercharger on everything, and >thats that. Look at the Cobra, they had to put a supercharger on it >in order to run with the competition. What if GM started doing that, >superchargers on LS1s, they would blow the doors of everything in >their path. When the SS comes out it will be tops in the 1/4, the >racetrack and so on.

"excellent engineering in every category" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH!
I'm not even going to respond to that!
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"Unlike Ford that sticks a supercharger on everything, and thats that."

Cheap horsepower and more fuel efficient. Makes sense to me. But then again, you and your beloved GM might know better, oh wait, how much power are the '03 f-bodies putting out? Oh yeah, NONE.

 

Hehehe, that was good. Being a Ford guy, I can't say I like GM much at all, rather, I think the scrap makes good ashtrays and stuff for vines to grow over. But, I do have to admit that the 98-02 Pontiac GTP supercharged Grand Prix's do look quite nice. That's the only car I'd be caught driving.

ANd it is hillarious how some people think GM has excellent engineering because they can mold a truck body (not even a good one, a unibody design, mind you) and plop it on a Vette suspension with a Vette engine, and call it excellent enginnering. How about you make that truck able to haul 800 pounds in it's bed, and tow 5k pounds of trailer. And still have a decent ride to it, opposed to what the unibody will feel like. Then tell me they have good engineering. Until then, keep wishing.

God, I seriously can't wait for the tri-valve design on the tritons to come out. mid 300's hp naturally aspirated? Ouch. Then use that in a Lightning and supercharge that...mid to high 4's? Oh mama......

 

Alright, seeing as how I am outnumbered behind enemy lines,
ya should come talk ##### in an unbiased message board, it fun!

www.modernmusclecars.net

 

Ok, I keep reading that only modded lightnings can beat a corvette...BULL$!*T. My STOCK lightning has 2 corvettes, a new one and a ZR1 under its belt. The ZR1 was more competion than the new one but still @$$whoppin none the less. Oh yea this is with my work partner in the truck and tools, paint and work ladders in the back. I dont know mabey its the driver?

 

>Hello everybody, first of all right off the bat Im a CHEVY
>guy. And after reading through most of the comments on this
>forum, I just felt that I needed to lay down my opinion. To
>start off, I feel that it is unfair for a magazine to be
>comparing two totaly different vehicles like that. I read
>that article and to no ones surprise, the Vette beat the
>Lightning. I guess they felt that since Ford did not offer
>any other muscle in their line-up, they ran what they could
>find. I mean, a Mustang GT is no match for a Vette or any
>LS1 powered F-body, and since the Cobras were recalled and
>removed from production none where available.
>Even if they where, it still would be no match for the
>Vette, even the Lightning would have spanked it down the
>1/4. Any way, I see some people bragging how their modded
>Lightnings spanked Vettes and F-bodies. Again, it is unfair
>to compare modded vehicle against stockers. For example, if
>a Lightning with nitrous, exhaust, chip, intake, etc. etc.
>spanked an F-body, I would not be surprised. But do the
>same to the F-body, then lets see who comes out on top.
>Thats the same as if you where driving a Cobra R and beat a
>V6 Camaro , and started to talk crap like, Chevy sucks etc.
>You would not have any braggin rights, people would laugh at
>you instead. Which brings me to another matter, how does
>Ford build a
>racer (Cobra R). Which is supposedly tuned and modded to
>stomp all over the Vette, and doesnt.
>I mean, The Cobra R had what they said was a totaly bad-***
>5.4 liter 32 valve super motor, they stripped out the back
>seat, no A/C, did not use sound deadning material, and bumb
>up the price more than a Z06. But still, the Vette with its
>Arctic like A/C, CD player, power everything and comfortable
>suspesion,
>and its much cheaper price still spanks the Cobra R down the
>1/4, around the track, stopped quicker, etc.
>How can that be!! He He, Ford must be laughing all the way
>to the bank with this one. Anyways, back to subject matter.
> Some of you say that if you buy a Lightning and spend what
>you would of spent on the Vette modifying it, you would
>stomp all over the stock Vette. Maybe so, but there you go
>again comparing two different vehicles. The Vette was bred
>on the racetrack, so just maybe, it you trip the clock
>quicker on the strip, good for you. Now, lets head to the
>racetrack, where the Vette was realy meant to shine, lets
>see who crosses the finish line first. You may be thinking,
>well the Vette is a sports car with much better handling
>suspension. My point exactly, two DIFFERENT vehicles.
>Also, the driver is a big part of the puzzle. Ive seen
>stock Lightnings in reviews run as slow as 14.7 and as quick
>as 13.5 in the quarter.
>Then Ive seen LS1 powered F-bodies run as slow as 14.1 and
>as quick as 12.7 in stock trim. So if a stock Lightning
>wastes a stock F-body, it it more than likely driver error.
>Now Im not here to spread hate, I think that the Lightning
>is an excellent piece of machinery, in its class, which is
>sad to say, is by itself right now. I wouldnt mind driving
>one, I wouldnt own one, but just to see what it can do. But
>when the Silverado SS comes out, I guarantee you it will
>spank the Lightning. You may say that the SS may be nothing
>more than a Vette with truck body on it, but thats GM for
>you, excellent enginering in every category. They want the
>best from their vehicles. Unlike Ford that sticks a
>supercharger on everything, and thats that. Look at the
>Cobra, they had to put a supercharger on it in order to run
>with the competition. What if GM started doing that,
>superchargers on LS1s, they would blow the doors of
>everything in their path. When the SS comes out it will be
>tops in the 1/4, the racetrack and so on.
>Not just in a straight line, but if thats what you want, all
>power to you, go ahead and haul your firewood or whatever
>catches your fancy back there. At least you can still wipe
>the floor clean with those ricers. Well, Ive said what I
>needed to say. feel free to email me. LS24(No Email Addresses In Posts!)
I remember that the Cobra R had faster lap times on the road coarse. This is what the Cobra was built for. A manufacture race car. There were many things done to make the car handle a long day at the track. I seriously doubt a stock corvette could handle a long day of hard racing. Yes both are sports cars, both have different purposes. I love my Fords but also have respect for the Corvette. I wish Ford would build something in the same class.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-Mar-02 AT 00:54 AM (EST)]I own a completely stock 2001 Lightning that will run door handle to door handle with any stock F-body out there and I routinely beat the crap out of Camaros, Impalas, and Trans-Ams. Needless to say, I eagerly await my first Vette kill (L-82s don't count). Unfortunately, almost every late model Vette I find out on the road these days is being driven by a bleach blonde bimbo with fake hooters. I wouldn't want to endanger the public by tempting someone like that to exceed the legal speed limit.

The mere fact that the SVT Lightning can run with GMs baddest hot rods is amazing. After all, this is a 4,620 PICKUP TRUCK we're talking about here. The looks of disbelief I get from my victims are absolutely priceless. Maybe it's because they think the Lightning is just a fancy sport truck with big wheels and side exhaust. Surprise!
:-staun

RUNVS?

 

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>02:37 AM (EST)[/font]
>
>OK..its actually quite common to see the lightning side by
>side w/ the vette if not in front of..I have seen it
>happen.And when did chevy start making the z08? It hasnt
>even been a year since they started making the z06, which by
>the way has a top speed of a little over a 140 miles an
>hour..it lost top end speed cuz gm geared it lower to shave
>an extra 1/10 of the quarter and improve acceleration. So a
>30k truck going as fast as a 60ksports car? Man I'd be
>embarresed if I was driving a vette and some college kid was
>pulling away from me in a truck filled w/ his lawn mowing
>equipment. And don't even get me started on the SS or SST
>silverado. 1. They are putting the largest engine they have
>(from the 3/4 ton)in the 1/2 ton truck. If ford did that
>they would be cramming a massive 6.8 v10 in their truck 2.
>As of yet I have yet to see anything about a production
>model but they started talking about it more than 2 years
>ago when they debuted the new body style. 3. When you take a
>gm and price it against a comporable ford your gonna be
>looking at 10k more. So a 40k truck is what your looking at?
>I'm gonna leave it at that. OBTW I am a corvette/camaro fan
>I have had chevy trucks adn ironically enough I even once
>worked for GM and don't hate them I just have more common
>sense than most of their customers and realize that hands
>down when it comes to the bang 4 yer buck factor Ford wins
>hands down.

Listen up i have a 99 silverado x-cab..that beats a lightning. How?.My truck is a 5.3 with hyper tech, exaust,headers,cams,intake,it ran 13.6 at 103 stock with programmer 15.4 at 92 even then i still stood up with the lightning through gears...but im still gonna get a lightning..lol peace

 

15.4 with all that work? The guy down the road from me has a Factory 2001 Lightning that runs 13.9's.

I do hope you do the smart thing and buy a lightning, because you'll sink more money into that truck than it's worth trying to get it into the 13's.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 02-Apr-02 AT 09:44 PM (EST)]Hey,

The old style C/K trucks 96-99 were pretty fast in themselves. In my opinion faster than the new sileverado's. But don't think I'm a chevy fan y'all. Just look at my old truck [link:https://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1986_f150_8.html|here], it burned 2 years ago and it had quite a few lightnings under its belt. The problem I see with the lightning now is that it need more cubes. I think that they should start with the V10 from the superduty, throw a supercharger on that and replace some internals and wala well over 400 hp. And then the torque jeez, now that would smoke the vette. I turned 16 with a '86 F-150 that had a 460 dropped into it, now that was a truck that a vette owner or two did this :-staun .

Man I've been away from these boards too long. I think its about time some resurection happened for that old 460, 460 hp and 530 ft.lbs of torque, raw american muscle. That's what Ford should do, Bring back the Big Block 460 V-8.

 

That's why I like my 65 F-100, just a little more modifying left to do to the 390 that's under the hood and it's enough to make any Chevy truck owner NVOUS.

Yes, it has taken off & left quite a few idiots sitting & scratching their heads as to just exactly what that was that just 'd them.

 

I doubt very much we'll see a Triton V10 in the Lightnings. Granted, it would be cool, but I don't see it happening. I did see a 96 or so Mustang that had a V6 and a guy modified it and put a Triton V10 in there and added Nitrous! That was a killer ride, and to think the V10 actually fit. Supposedly, they said the motor mounts were very similar!? I'll try to find the link again.

Concerning the Lightning, I would like to see Ford develope their tri-valve system for the 5.4L Triton and use that in the Lightning! Might not even need a supercharger from what I have heard earlier!

 

Tri-valves, why not just go with the four valve 5.4L out of the GT-40(which will be put into production) oh, BTW where can I find some info on that tri-valve setup i've only heard bout it on these message boards.


82' Flareside with 400 horse under the hood

 

I thought I heard the GT40 was gonna be a turbo 4 cylinder, maybe it was 6. Oh well, I could have heard wrong. And as for the tri-valves, I did see it here, but I ran into it on some weird site, I forget which, bt I will definately try to find it and post it...

 

If you go yo www.motortrend.com you can find info on it.



82' Flareside with 400 horse under the hood