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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-Jan-03 AT 04:23 PM (EST)]The new 427 v-10 S/C in a mustang And/or a Lighning?! The naturally aspirated "new" 427 has 590 hp. For more specks on the motor, check out the Ford 427 Concept.
Stop it, you people are acting like children, buy whatever vehicle you want. I beat C****** and M***** all of the time at the track with and without modifications. They also beat me once in a while, I have a 1979 F150 2wd with a 351M. I personally think that if C******** and D**** were not around I would not have anybody to race. You guys that don't even own a Lightning can brag all that you want, do you know what it is like to travelling down the track (1/4) at 174 mph, because, well, I do. Thanks for reading my opinion, If you don't know what you are talking about then please don't brag, it's the numbers that count.
OK people now has any of u ever put a lightning on a dyno and really seen its horsepower to the rear wheel? And as far as the whole corvette vs. lightning thing goes...1. its a truck vs. a car. 2. My uncle's lightning can't even come close to keeping up with my vette and his is not only had a few mods done to it but its also a 2002 model. 3. The only thing special about that truck is the SC other that that its a standard cab f150 with groundeffects. 4. That 03 cobra is a bunch o bull with its 390hp cause if my vette has 380 to the rear wheel and thats supposed to have 390 than why the hell hasn't my neighbor beat me yet??? All i can say is this i'll give ford its props on building a quick truck but other than that its no vette killer.
Now which part may i ask do u say i'm full of my vette with 380 to the rear wheel, the lightning, or the cobra? Which ever one u want to argue about thats fine i'll back myself but can u back what ever u have to say? If u wanna go after my vette i'll post the numbers on it from Shaver Chevy or from ligenfelter or better yet just got the the website theres a pic of my car and its stats there,or i'll just post the dyno test result myself on here u decide. As for the lightning and the cobra lets see some proof of there actual horsepower #'s and if they are what they say they are than y is my car pulling ahead of them everytime......or wait may chevy and ligenfelter are both wrong and my vette has more horsepower than what the dyno says hmm.. i think not.
Nobody cares about your car, in case you haven't noticed this is a Ford owners website. You don't need to come in here and blab your big damn mouth off. I only believe what I see, corvettes dont't come from the factory with 380 horsepower but Lightnings do. And if somebody in an independent test raced the two and the lightning won, then you should probably take that as official. I will stand by the fact that the driver makes the car win a race. Thats the truth. If you beat a cobra and a lightning the other guy probably wasn't racing. After all the reason that they make so many after market chevy parts is because the chevys need them to work.
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Originally posted by red351 Maybe when I find a 10 year old STOCK chevy that can outrun my 10 year old STOCK F-150...nah, then ill just have to do something to mine!
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Originally posted by ryanstruck And what about when GMC made their torbo-charged Cyclone? That's a souped up truck with non-GMC parts, and that wasn't sold at every dealership...in fact, it was more limited than the Lightning as I remember.....
It's Syclone, not Cyclone. There were only 2 major parts that were non-GMC. The turbo is a TD06-17c sourced from Mitsubishi and the air to water intercooler was built by Garett. 2995 trucks produced in 1991.
Originally posted by mattsbox99 Nobody cares about your car, in case you haven't noticed this is a Ford owners website. You don't need to come in here and blab your big damn mouth off. I only believe what I see, corvettes dont't come from the factory with 380 horsepower but Lightnings do. And if somebody in an independent test raced the two and the lightning won, then you should probably take that as official. I will stand by the fact that the driver makes the car win a race. Thats the truth. If you beat a cobra and a lightning the other guy probably wasn't racing. After all the reason that they make so many after market chevy parts is because the chevys need them to work.
Yea ok just like the 99 cobra came with 320 horsepower stock right...i don't think so because it was later tested and ended up having like what 280 if that. As far as the after market parts quote goes at least chevys don't need to supercharge their cars to get enough horsepower to compete with everyone else. And i do own a ford buddy i own a 93 lightning that houses a engine that i have alot of respect for so maybe u should shut the hole in that ugly face of yours and not tell me where i can and can't go. And if you decide to reply to this just stick to talk about cars, trucks, or whatever u want to discuss or argue about but don't go out and get loud with me cause u have no idea who i am. oH yea your right the cheapiest corvette u can buy comes with 350hp and the cheapiest lightning u can buy is a standard f150 with a 6 cylinder. So since the f150 (SVT) lightning is the top of the line of the f-series trucks than we'll take the the top of the line corvette which is a Z06 that houses a 420hp 5.7 liter LS6 motor. Oh my there goes the whole "corvettes don't come with 380 hp" theory of yours.
There is no such thing as a cheap lightning. They all are 5.4L V8 SC. So how do you feel about the mustang being responsible for shutting down the firebird and camaro programs. You don't need to get so emotional. You are allowed to do whatever you want as long as it falls within legal parameters. I am glad that you can beat somebody in a road race. I beat people all the time at the track, I also lose sometimes, however it is never do to a mechanical failure. According to your math that means that the ZO6 comes with 380 horepower, but that isnt until you get to 8,000 rpm so it is totally useless for most (99%) of the drivers out there. I get your math from what you said about the mustang I don't really care because I don't race them, but my dad has a '69 Mach1, that is a really fast car. I am disappointed that ford is only making 6500 of them though.
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Originally posted by mattsbox99 There is no such thing as a cheap lightning. They all are 5.4L V8 SC. So how do you feel about the mustang being responsible for shutting down the firebird and camaro programs. You don't need to get so emotional. You are allowed to do whatever you want as long as it falls within legal parameters. I am glad that you can beat somebody in a road race. I beat people all the time at the track, I also lose sometimes, however it is never do to a mechanical failure. According to your math that means that the ZO6 comes with 380 horepower, but that isnt until you get to 8,000 rpm so it is totally useless for most (99%) of the drivers out there. I get your math from what you said about the mustang I don't really care because I don't race them, but my dad has a '69 Mach1, that is a really fast car. I am disappointed that ford is only making 6500 of them though.
I wasn't stating that there was a cheap lightning u said that corvettes don't come with 380hp stock well u were right about that if u were refering to the base model that comes with 350hp, but the lightning is and always will be a beefed up standard cab f150 and the cheapiest f150 u can get comes with a 6 cylinder in it and is not called a lightning well since the lightning is the top of the line model of the f150's than its be only right to put it up against the top of the line model corvette which comes stock with 420hp. The 380hp vette that i was talking about is my 94 lingenfelter vette which isn't a z06 cause they started production of the z06 in 2000 or 99 can't remeber which year. the 69 mach1 is a really nice car my dad had a 73 mach1 back in the day. THats true that the vette is geared mostly for high speed but it still gets the job done 0 -60 and could u imagine how much quicker it would be 0 to 60 if it was geared like the lightning, mustang, camero,or firebird! ANd yea mustang really didn't shut down the camero and firebird gm just got tired of having the same old thing thats y the GTO is now back!
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