Hudnut,

What a ********!

You must have had at least 1000 hp to pull away from Corvettes like they were in reverse. I have a Ford truck and it has been good to me and I also have a few Vettes, I'll bet your Fairmont could outrun my Super Gas 66 Vette, hell, I only do 9.50's in the quarter and 12.00s with my C-4, must be slow in comparison to what you have or HAD. If you are ever in Maryland and you want to beat up on some Vettes, hey, look me up, I'll show you what a Chevrolet can do!

Peace....

 

Man, can't you see that the remark he made was just a ploy to get some stupid reply like that? If you couldn't I sure did.

And in the future, would you please watch the language. This is a family site after all.

 

Troll.

Wow, you got a super gas 66 Vette running 9.2's. My dad's good friend from Warren, Maine, has a 32 Ford Coupe pro-street, no slicks, running 7.6's with a 3 second handicap. If you got the money, you can run the car. We all know the Lightning in question was pretty well modded. The point is you can go spend $45,000 on a stock Vette and run 12's and use it at the track, but you can spend $32,000, drop in the extra $13k in mods and with that much in mods, I'm sure easily break 11's, if not 10's, and still use the truck, which weighs what, maybe 1500 pounds more than the Vette, to haul trailers and stuff in the bed, and smoke the Vette while doing so. It's like this new Chevy SS. 480 hp. Big deal. It also has 1.2L on the Lightning with the LS1 6.6L, and it has a Z06 suspension and tranny. Unibody design...I don't think you'll get any practical uses out of that truck like towing or hauling. A waste if you will...a full size X-treme. Which is also a waste.

 

Ryanstruck,

The only limitations on both the Lightning and the Vette are what one is willing to spend on them to improve performance. In stock form,
both run quite well. I just can't figure why a car magazine would match up such different purpose vehicles to duke it out, why not truck against another truck (Ford would no doubt come out on top)and Chevrolets 2 seater against Fords 2 seater, you catch my drift? Personally, I like both and wish I was in a position to own both at the same time to enjoy both for what the are.

Peace,

 

I see what you're saying, but that is just the point, money. For the cost of a Vette stock, you can have a severely heavily modded Lightning that will rip the Vette in half! And maybe there was no purpose putting a Lightning against a Vette, other than to show that the $32k Ford truck with some mods that can be used to do work and to race the strip could beat the $45k sports car which Chevy claims to be the pinnacle of fine automotive engineering. Dodge tried to beat the Lightning with the Dakota 5.9L R/T, they couldn't do it. Chevy is trying to beat the Lightning with the SS concept truck. They may end up beating the Lightning in speed or 1/4 times, but it's not even a truck, it's a Corvette with a unibody truck shell covering it. It won't be able to haul stuff like the Lightning does, and I can gaurantee the cost for the SS will be absolutely outrageous, probably at least the cost of the Corvette Z06. And now Dodge has apparently unveiled a new Ram pickup sport truck, housing a Viper V12 engine in it...again, think of the cost of these things. A Viper crate runs I believe roughly $30k. Don't quote me on that, i'll try to find out, but that is a number someone gave to me. To date, no other company can do what Ford has done, and that is produce a relatively cheap (in comparison to other sports cars/trucks) sports vehicle that is capable of incredible times, speeds, and can still if needed be used to work with.

 

dodge didnt try to compete with the lightning (at least the gen II "L") with the R/T. the R/T came out before the SUPERCHARGED lightning.

the viper crate enging costs $12,999. i doubt that truck will ever be sold with that engine, trans, and brake pakage.

it dosent matter what you drive. all that matters is how fat your bank roll is. i know of one guy that has a gen III dakota (97-02 body style) in the 11's with a stock body....oh yea its also a v6!

 

oh yea, the viper is a v10, not a v12

 

Hello everybody, first of all right off the bat Im a CHEVY guy. And after reading through most of the comments on this forum, I just felt that I needed to lay down my opinion. To start off, I feel that it is unfair for a magazine to be comparing two totaly different vehicles like that. I read that article and to no ones surprise, the Vette beat the Lightning. I guess they felt that since Ford did not offer any other muscle in their line-up, they ran what they could find. I mean, a Mustang GT is no match for a Vette or any LS1 powered F-body, and since the Cobras were recalled and removed from production none where available.
Even if they where, it still would be no match for the Vette, even the Lightning would have spanked it down the 1/4. Any way, I see some people bragging how their modded Lightnings spanked Vettes and F-bodies. Again, it is unfair to compare modded vehicle against stockers. For example, if a Lightning with nitrous, exhaust, chip, intake, etc. etc. spanked an F-body, I would not be surprised. But do the same to the F-body, then lets see who comes out on top. Thats the same as if you where driving a Cobra R and beat a V6 Camaro , and started to talk crap like, Chevy sucks etc. You would not have any braggin rights, people would laugh at you instead. Which brings me to another matter, how does Ford build a
racer (Cobra R). Which is supposedly tuned and modded to stomp all over the Vette, and doesnt.
I mean, The Cobra R had what they said was a totaly bad-*** 5.4 liter 32 valve super motor, they stripped out the back seat, no A/C, did not use sound deadning material, and bumb up the price more than a Z06. But still, the Vette with its Arctic like A/C, CD player, power everything and comfortable suspesion,
and its much cheaper price still spanks the Cobra R down the 1/4, around the track, stopped quicker, etc.
How can that be!! He He, Ford must be laughing all the way to the bank with this one. Anyways, back to subject matter. Some of you say that if you buy a Lightning and spend what you would of spent on the Vette modifying it, you would stomp all over the stock Vette. Maybe so, but there you go again comparing two different vehicles. The Vette was bred on the racetrack, so just maybe, it you trip the clock quicker on the strip, good for you. Now, lets head to the racetrack, where the Vette was realy meant to shine, lets see who crosses the finish line first. You may be thinking, well the Vette is a sports car with much better handling suspension. My point exactly, two DIFFERENT vehicles. Also, the driver is a big part of the puzzle. Ive seen stock Lightnings in reviews run as slow as 14.7 and as quick as 13.5 in the quarter.
Then Ive seen LS1 powered F-bodies run as slow as 14.1 and as quick as 12.7 in stock trim. So if a stock Lightning wastes a stock F-body, it it more than likely driver error. Now Im not here to spread hate, I think that the Lightning is an excellent piece of machinery, in its class, which is sad to say, is by itself right now. I wouldnt mind driving one, I wouldnt own one, but just to see what it can do. But when the Silverado SS comes out, I guarantee you it will spank the Lightning. You may say that the SS may be nothing more than a Vette with truck body on it, but thats GM for you, excellent enginering in every category. They want the best from their vehicles. Unlike Ford that sticks a supercharger on everything, and thats that. Look at the Cobra, they had to put a supercharger on it in order to run with the competition. What if GM started doing that, superchargers on LS1s, they would blow the doors of everything in their path. When the SS comes out it will be tops in the 1/4, the racetrack and so on.
Not just in a straight line, but if thats what you want, all power to you, go ahead and haul your firewood or whatever catches your fancy back there. At least you can still wipe the floor clean with those ricers. Well, Ive said what I needed to say. feel free to email me. LS24(No Email Addresses In Posts!)

 

just wondering how much is the silverado SS going to cost? and when is it comming out?

and for the guys in the ford camp, what is differant, other than the supercharger, on the 5.4 in the lightning compared to the 5.4 in the regular F-150?

Eric

 

I'm just curious and it has been bothering me. How is it that Ford can make a truck go so fast and they don't have a mustang to go even faster because it would look like they could just put the same lightning engine in a mustang and it would be even faster? Am I missing something? Thank ya much!

 

actually i think i remember reading a mag that did put a lightning engine in a mustang. it ran in the high 13's/ low 14's. if i remember right (it was a while back) it wasnt that good because the whole engine iron (i think) and the roots type supercharger just smoked the tires on the launch.

Eric

 

Sorry to say but my 99 lightning does 12.9 in the 1/4 mile with only a $1000 bucks invested into it.I race new vettes at the track all day long and they never have a chance.And no, I'm not running nitrous!

 

hey sparky, who were you directing that to?

 

Kota, don't get so defensive. It seems that every time anyone posts some facts and real numbers or stats about their vehicle, you're always there to jump in and make a scene.

Suffice to say, I think he was just posting on the thread to anyone interested, as it is the topic Lightning vs. Corvette. Obviously, slips would be more perswaying than just stating it, but as there have been alot of people on the thread, particularly non-Ford owners, who seem to know so much about Ford's, and claim that you must spend mass amounts of cash with insane mods to race with Vette's, I think he was stating it to them.

 

dude, i wasnt doubting that his lightning could do 12's. i just didnt know what he was responding to

Eric