I believe there are a few differences in the HD vs. the Lightning's motors as in SVT got a hold of the Lightning's and the Harley is not an SVT product.

 

Most of you guys are not being logical at all about this subject; some of you are. This has obviously turned in to a battle between GM and Ford. The Lighting is a an awesome truck and anyone who denies that whether they like Fords or not is an idiot. Someone posted something like a stock f150 without the SC running almost the same numbers as a vette, Hmmmmmm.... let me think... NO. There is no chance of that whatsoever. Another thing is that You guys get all hairy when someone says that the vette is better than the lighting and to refute the arguement you say something stupid like if you tied a ton of bricks to the back of the lighting and to the vette the vette would be destroyed and the truck would pull easily. Well DUH, the lighting is a truck, its built with the proper tranny, gears, and engine setup for TORQUE. It pulls things. A Vette doesn't need that and therefore logically Chevy didn't put that stuff into the vette. If Chevy did put that stuff in a vette the next thing you guys would complain about is that Chevy doesn't know how to build a vehicle for its most practical use. Bottom line here is this. These two vehicles are both reach the high performance category, but are built entirely different in order to reach that high performance category. It is not amazing for a lighting to beat a vette because the vette may not have been taken to its highest potential. (Hmmmm... lets see.... it doesn't have an SC like the lightning.) If you took a vette to its full potential and any lighting to its full potential the vette would SMOKE ANY lighting. Why you ask? Because it has a much lighter body. Based on this information EVERYONE should come to the logical conclusion that these two vehicles can not be compared. So if you all want a real comparison between GM and Ford then set up some out in the open war where each manufacturer produces a new design specifically designed to beat out the other manufacturers design. (Note- It would only be logical that these machines were built in the same category such as trucks or cars so that you would be comparing the same factors like speed or torque.)
P.S.- GOOD LORD, Haven't you people come to the realization that a lot of a car companies designs are based on that of another car companies. Its a know fact that they all cheat off of each other. If they see a car that is better than theirs, they go out, buy it, and copy the design. Ford and Chevy alike.

 

As I read through the posts even more i noticed even more illogical arguements. Some of you say stuff like my Modified impala can blow away your lightning. Well yeah, it's modified, aftermarket parts, this CAN'T draw anyone to the conclustion that one car or company is better or faster than another. Which then again should make you all look at every car as not having reached its full potential and therefor every car can't be compared. Which should therefor bring EVERYONE to the logical conclusion that maybe chevy corvette isn't trying to beat a ford truck. And if it were all chevy would have to do is hop up the engine a little and its bye bye to mr. lightning. It all comes down to that a truck which has reached its full potential can't and never will beat a car which has reached its full potential. All you idiots who through in stuff about your modified vehicles are wasting more time and space than the people who try to compare a car to a truck. Like I said in the last post car companies copy designs. If ford builds something great chevy copies it and makes it better. (and I don't necessarily mean in terms of high performance but also in luxury and economy.)

 

Yeah but throw 500LBS. of dry-mix cement in the back and see who can still move.

 

Allright, let's end this thread for good. To respond to the recent post, the vette does have more potential to due to the bigger block, lack of SC, and lighter weight, but that doesn't matter with stock vehicles. How much they can pull is irrelevent, no corvette will ever be pulling at the track. The lightning is primarily designed to race, as is the vette, even though it certainly can pull if needed. Bottom line: the vette is a faster vehicle than the lightning. Say anything you want, take any year vette, stock, and run it against the same year lightning, stock, and the vette will. And if you're pushing 100 mph, the vette will win significantly. The new lightnings come real close, but not close enough. The lightning is great, it's fast, I think they are some of the coolest trucks out there, but fact is, the vette is faster.

 

Alright Guys -

I need an explaination!!

I've been following this thread for quite some time and I just don't see how or why ya'all are trying to compare a car to a truck, end of story.

After being in dirt track racing for many years and seeing the garbage that goes on at small tracks, especially when they have their all famous "endo-racing" prize nights where a super modified mini stock is racing a street car or a bomber car and smokes them (duh) - aren't you guys kinda doing the same thing?????

What am I missing here??? You take a sporty, low riding, aero-dynamic "car" and try to compare it to a "TRUCK" and then argue as to why the truck might be better than "that" car that was made for "nothing" but running.

I don't get it!!!!

 

I see what your saying, but in my humble opinion, the difference is this. While the lightning is a truck, and the corvette is a car, they both are built to do the same thing. They are built to race from stoplights, to smoke the other vehicles on the road, and to handle better than normal cars or trucks. Noboby buys the lightning as work truck, that is not it's purpose. I think they oughta compare the Lightning with the Silverado SS or the SRT Ram. But hey, if you line the lightning, the vette, and the SRT ram up, you are gonna see a pretty cool race. I doubt lightning owners refrain from racing sports cars, the fun of it is "My bigger, heavier truck can wax your turbo import, haha". Older muscle cars often have significantly more weight than today's quick cars. But if you have an old Chevelle or something, that doesn't mean you're exempt from being compared to a new vette or something even lighter at the track. Watch, the new lightning is going to be incredible, or at least it looks to be. With 500-550 horses it's likely going to run into Z06 territory. And if a stock lightning beats a stock vette, maybe the comparision will seem more balanced. Both are designed to be the quickest, and with 350-400 horses in each, despite the inherent disadvantage of a truck, they're going to be raced for years to come, on the same streets, where weight classes don't exist.

 

Thanks for the reply Mike.

Your comments clear up quite a bit. I still don't get the Truck vs. Car thing, but have a little clear idea of the mentality.

Again, I appreciate your giving me the info.

 

The heartbeat is DEAD. I don't know why you Chevy owners get so big-headed. You should be EMBARASSED that a TRUCK can KEEP UP with your WS or whatever you have. Chevy has not had an answer to the Lightning--never has, never will. The SS-454 was a joke, and the new SS Silverado is one too, saw one blow up on the interstate last week. You must have forgotten about the SVT Focus FR-300--it blew the doors off the Corvette! Another thing, if the cameros and firebirds were SO good, why were they DISCONTINUED??? Because the Mustang outsold and out performed them.

 

Well, sorry, without a supercharger, the Z28's can run mid-13's, they are fast, it's a powerful engine, and can be hot-rodded to the sky. The 5.7 verses the 4.6, well, in my opinion, the 5.7 is simply more powerful. The f-bodies were discontinued because they didn't sell, not because they were crap. So you ask, "Well then, why didn't they sell". I can't answer that fully, but part of the reason is that they weren't promoted. When did you last see a camaro or firebird ad on tv? I think the young people went for the imports, that hurt them. I liked the f-bodies though, I mean, come on, you could get a big hunk of power, and torque, I might add, for a relatively cheap price. These imports are out-selling mustangs, are they better? No. Sales do not supremely dictate that a vehicle is better. Just my opinion, I'm a Ford fan myself, so enough on that.
To Wsin6, I'm picturing you as a guy shaking while typing, possibly on drugs, with a vein bulging out of your forehead as you type away on the evils of Ford. Chill out, read my post up above. Granted there are those obsessed with Ford and supporting Ford no matter what, but most people hear are pretty relaxed. You remind me of those "out of control" Ford people you mention. Your stats may be right, but calm down, you just typed two pages in a thread that wound down weeks ago. Two pages..I mean, my God. It's even made me type a long reply! And it wounddown to the simple conclusion that the vette is faster. Take it easy.

 

Holy crap. This thread was started 3 years and 12 pages ago. This has to be some kind of a record.

 

YA this tread has to of set a record Well if either the vett or the Lightining was better than the other then this tread wouldn't of gone on so long. Chebbie guys can say what they will for now but when the 2004 Lighting comes out you can garauntee that vetts all over the country will be struck by the fastest production truck in the world. I wonder what their excusses will be then??

 

How about for fun we mix things up and run my 95 Ford F350 Crewcab 4X4 with 36" tires against the Vette or the Lightning I hope either one can run faster than a 11.99@115mph. Nothing like getting smoked by a 7400lbs diesel powered truck. I know it's a little off topic but I couldn't resist.

 

how bout run it up against my 1982 f-100 with a rebuilt 302 that has a comp cams xtreme energy cam, an edelbrock performer 289 intake, edelbrock 4bbl carb, bored over .030, k&n filtercharger, flowtech headers, and flowmaster 40 series mufflers. the truck will go and it will go fast too. i would like to run it up against either one of the two. havent had a chance to run it up against either one yet. have had a chance to run it up against a ricer and a dodge truck. theyll think twice next time the wanna race.

 

Now here is the funny thing. I own a '02 lightning and i'm not looking at getting rid of it ever but my friend now owns an '01 Z06 'vette with a 150 shot of juice. This vette can smoke m. But he is not satisfied and is trying to sell it. He wants a 1993 all wheel drive Eagle Talon. With 15 grand this talon will run 10's in the 1/4 mile. What does that say about chevy owners.