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There are only two things that kill a model, federal restrictions and poor sales, If GM was selling a lot of the firebird camaro clones they would have modified it to get some kind of advantage over a mustang. There is no real base model corvette, they are all quick and ugly IMO. The 99-curent lightnings are almost completely diffferent than a stock f 150. They have a different engine, transmission, suspension, brakes, axles, and wheels. the 93-95 Lighnings are nothing more than nice wheels and good brakes on the biggest available engine F150. I think that the corvette is not far from being cut as well there sales are in the gutter and there is only so much room for improvement, maybe if they had a cheap model like the mustang they would sell more, but the mustang was not built to compete with the corvette, but rather the gto and various dodge scars. Right now GM is trying to save sales by building more minivans. I think they could handle that. I have never driven a corvette but I have a friend with a 68 and he says that chevies are the best, in fact his license plate is 4d klr The car looks good and its pretty fast I think it has a 396 in it and he goes through good tires in about two weeks. The new harley pickup and lightning pickup share the same engine so you would think they have the same horsepower but nope. I don't know why. You
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blacklightningf150
[B]Thanx i didnt know that, but they werent HP trucks were they ? i mean Chev (hate that damn name) is supposed to put megga HP in a unibody truck that probly wont be able to take it.... i dunno i think the "frame" is the best bet and they hold up in an accedent to...once a unibody's been hit not much you can do with it except scrap it.....hey thats not a bad idea...(for the chev's that is)
but thanx i'll look into those older Fords i really didnt know they were a unibody setup...
"but they werent HP trucks"
The 67 Fairlane Ranchero had the GT heads(FE) the same options as the Fairlane and probably the fastest truck available in 67. Try a 67 Fairlane Ranchero with a 428 CJ 4-speed truck. And yes a UNIBODY.
I think that the harley f-150 just has a detuned lightning motor be way of less psi in the supercharger (larger supercharger pulley or smaller crank pulley i'm not totally sure) and probably some chip mods. I think thats how its done but i'm just goin from what i've heard so its not 100 percent. Ask a hd f-150 owner and they would probably be able to tell. you.
Run against many Corvettes smoked most of them with 800.00 worth of mods you have to remember America is the land of street light racing and not top speed. How many times have driven at top speed compared to gunning it when she turns green?
I'm new here and I have A '79 F150. but after calling the dealer ,the F150 harley is basicly a standard F150 with a very nice leather interior ,capt. chairs ,wheels ,penstripe ,and a supercharger. it cost more than a lighting too.
I thought I would also note that the Chevit attempt at the Lightning costs $40,000 compared to the $32,000 price tag of the lightning with 35 more HP and more lb-ft. of torque. HAH
This whole thing trucks verses cars is foolish. I mean you are comparing apples to oranges. A truck was built initialy to haul large things from farm to market and vice versa. I am not knocking anyone for getting a Lightning. If your whole mission in life is to go fast. Then get yourself a sports car. If you mission in life is to look cool get yourself one of these Lightnings. Just look at the numbers. GATR racing truck average mph 150. Nascar racing car average mph 200. Do not lie to me and say a GATR racing truck will be beat by a Lightning.
Ok i know i wasnt driving a ford truck at the time but i raced a corvette in my girlfriends mustang ( 4 cylinder) and beat it easily. There hasnt been any modifications to the mustang either. I have no doubt that my truck could have beaten it.
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Originally posted by Lingenfeltervette94 Now which part may i ask do u say i'm full of my vette with 380 to the rear wheel, the lightning, or the cobra? Which ever one u want to argue about thats fine i'll back myself but can u back what ever u have to say? If u wanna go after my vette i'll post the numbers on it from Shaver Chevy or from ligenfelter or better yet just got the the website theres a pic of my car and its stats there,or i'll just post the dyno test result myself on here u decide. As for the lightning and the cobra lets see some proof of there actual horsepower #'s and if they are what they say they are than y is my car pulling ahead of them everytime......or wait may chevy and ligenfelter are both wrong and my vette has more horsepower than what the dyno says hmm.. i think not.
Ya know if you havent noticed the site name then you might wanna check. I will help you out ok? It is www.fordtrucks.com. Guess that means we dont care much about your vette.
I'm a Ford man myself, but let's be realistic. The corvette is a sports car, and shouldn't be compared to a truck. But, the name of this thread is "Lightning vs. Corvette", and the two aren't far apart in power, so compare people will. The fact is that if you take vettes and lightnings of the same year, stock, and pit them up on the strip, the vettes are going to be winning alot more races. The ZO6 is faster than the new lightnings. If the race lasts longer, the vettes edge in top speed capabilities would show too. Basically, for those who won't admit it, the vette is a faster vehicle the the lighting in general. Also, Z28's have been quicker than Mustang GT's year after year, simply more power in their 5.7's. This may not be what we want to hear, but it's fact. The upcoming lightning, aiming for 500-550 horses, may change things.
Originally posted by power_ranger the original subject of this conference is meant to be about racing not towing. no ****** a lightning is going to tow stuff better than a vette. the only reason the lightning is fast is because it has a supercharger. i bet half of the crap you guys are saying is made up.
come on a 92 f-150 thats whoops c-5s. i'll believe it when i see it.
im not a ford hater. i own a ranger. but u could say i wish they built a turbo or supercharged ranger.
Check out the April issue of Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords magazine. SVT built a Ranger with a Lightning motor to test on. Bet you'll drool & wish they would make that cuz i sure do
Comparing trucks and car are two different catagories.Think,run the new 03 cobra against a Z06 now thats a good comparison.But the Z06 will stilloutrun an 03 cobra.The Z06 is an LS6,in other words an LS1 with a bigger cam and freerer flowing intake manifolds and exhaust.The LS6 is one bad little dude,I rode in one a while back and they are unbeleivable.The new LS1 and LS6 engines just wont be beat.I hate to say it but it wont.
Someone posted around page 5 that their HD edition would give up 40hp to the lightning, the only difference is the pulley on the supercharger, buy the pulley and the belt and I imagine you'd make the same HP. I'm not sure if the throttle body is different or not though....
Well, obviously I would hope the vette would win, but for the money you simply can't beat a lighting. The new SRT 10 Ram will be a viable opponent though with it's 500 HP Viper motor in it.....Ford needs to redesign their motors.
PS the magazine Truckin' states you could get about 600 HP. out of a ligthing with the new Kenne Bell SC and some other mods (and that's without Nitrous)