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That's a good question Maddog. I was actually just thinking about this yesterday after seeing a video from Hodson Motors talking about the steps they use. They use Rough Country running boards. So far everything I have seen has to be modified.
I've seen a few of these dentsides with the AMP steps on them, but like you mention no one seems to talk about what parts they were using. That's why I started my thread with my part numbers back when I did it. My truck is gone, but steps are still here and may go on the '75 my buddy is building.
I think no matter what you'll have to fab up a bracket or 2 for whatever you end up using.
Good find! It looks pretty straight and rust free, but it's still overpriced.
Now if it has a fully documented, freshly rebuilt motor by a reputable shop (which doesn't appear to be the case), rebuilt transmission, transfer case, and axles, working EVERYTHING, then maybe it's in the 20's in value. My guess is that the F-350 longbed conversion to 4x4 is probably more of a liability than an asset, but I'd be happy to be wrong about that!
All of the big auctions will prove you wrong. There have been 4x4 converted, and even Dodge Chassis swapped crew cabs selling for $200k. I never see 2wd trucks bringing near the money 4wd trucks are. A nicely done 4wd always increases the value, at least at this point in time.
Also, as far as that bumpside crew, 20s seems reasonable. If it had nice paint it would be in the 50s or 60s at least. That's just how the values have gone up for those things.
I've seen a few of these dentsides with the AMP steps on them, but like you mention no one seems to talk about what parts they were using. That's why I started my thread with my part numbers back when I did it. My truck is gone, but steps are still here and may go on the '75 my buddy is building.
I think no matter what you'll have to fab up a bracket or 2 for whatever you end up using.
Do you have a link to that thread? Power steps are on my list, in fact I bought a set of factory Ford power steps from a newer aluminum body truck, but I'm not sure I'll be able to make them work. I've heard Solomon Lunger (@thefordera on instagram and Youtube) talk about designing brackets to mount AMP steps, but they aren't on his website yet.
The van roofs have the extra rigidity to them but I've heard that they don't really line up the right way at the drip rails and need to be modified a bit. Not necessarily a big deal, but something to keep in mind. Last I checked, LMC has drip rail and roof edge sections in their catalogue but it seems like every time I go back to look something else has been discontinued. As said above, a supercab roof is not really the same either. Three standard roofs would work too. All three of these ways have been done by people though, and if you measure and fab it up right, all three of these ways would work. I believe there is also a way to get a modern superduty roof to fit as well but obviously that requires quite a bit more work.
FYI, the drip rail and roof edge pieces are now available again from LMC. Get em while you can!
What @ChaseTruck754 you still have your steps? I'll buy them off ya and try to document the install for me and all the other inquiring minds that want to know more install details. PM me if interested in selling. I'm in your neck of the woods weekly.
I reached out to Solomon for info about his brackets and never heard back from him. However, I connected with another in the know crew cab owner in my area that has Solomon's brackets. He said the brackets aren't ready to sell yet, hence they are not on his site.
All of the big auctions will prove you wrong. There have been 4x4 converted, and even Dodge Chassis swapped crew cabs selling for $200k. I never see 2wd trucks bringing near the money 4wd trucks are. A nicely done 4wd always increases the value, at least at this point in time.
Also, as far as that bumpside crew, 20s seems reasonable. If it had nice paint it would be in the 50s or 60s at least. That's just how the values have gone up for those things.
I don't really pay attention to the big auctions that much. I guess I should...
A shortbed F26 crew cab should be worth more than a converted longbed 2x4 to 4x4 IMO given all other drivetrain, interior, etc being equal between them but I'm sure other people think differently. If somewhere in the 20's is reasonable for that longbed bumpside that is converted, then my dentside crew must be worth more than I think it is! I'm not going to complain about that!! .
Anyone here now running AMP, Rough Country, or Rhino power steps on their crew cab? I know there are multiple OFCC's out there with newer power steps on them but I've not seen much info about what steps are being used and how they are modified other than the old thread here from @ChaseTruck754suggesting AMP part # 75113-01A, which is for '99-07 chevy's/GMC's and the video in that thread by horsepower ranch. This mod is still on my wish list .
My son has been running AMP fold-down steps on his 07 Tundra now for 8-years. I like them.
Folded in the UP position, they look like very slick Rock-Sliders like we use on the Rubicon Jeep Trail. (in jeeps).
I wonder what my '77 Crew may be worth at Auction. ( I've been watching CrewCab's sell at auction on BAT ).
My '77 F350 Longbed 4x4 Crew Cab is a complete Smorgasboard of Pieces and Parts. But, it looks stock.
The only pieces remaining of the "original" F350 2wd Longbed Crew is the Chassis with Vin stamping, and Driveline (modified).
I had the California CHP give me an inspection prior to completion, because of the Cab-Swap, so numbers would match.
Therefore, I have a clear California Smorgasboard Title. hahaha it is all legal and has Stated-Value insurance.
All components are OEM Ford pieces, but not correct years nor model either. (like the '79 Dana 60 kingpin front axle). LoL
They are all "selected" components I chose, just like building a pickup to run in the Baja.
Springs, Steering, Drive Axles, Cab, Box, Engine, Transmission, etc etc.
When I finally do decide to let go of my CrewCab, it will go up for auction on BAT with No Reserve. period.
I have enjoyed my Crew now since the 1998 completion. After the build, it was like owning a New-Oldish Pickup and RARE.
It was my third conversion with the two predecessor's being Ford E250 window vans.
After having enjoyed the famous Rubicon Jeep Trail since 1983, I had a good idea of what equipment works and what doesn't.
That Rubicon Jeep Trail for us jeeper's is a most enjoyable challenge each summer. (the trail is hard on the jeeps tho).
Ha, I can't remember of a jeep trail where you almost couldn't go slow enough. (to prevent carnage).
Remember, my rear suspension came from a '77 F250 2wd shortbed, soft and comfy. On top of those leaf packs reside overload leaf packs sourced from the '71 F350 dually flatbed. Same narrow spring leafs as our Crew's.
The overload frame perches came from a '92 F250.
Front springs are '76 F250 highboy donors. on and on.
So for the CrewCab interest fellas, maybe this info may assist someone in their parts sourcing or ideas.
A note: I believe the late '80's Dana 60 front axle shafts are larger diameter than the late '70's front dana 60's.
A quick phone call to Dyna-Trac will keep a guy straight on parts offerings. May also be a good idea before a swap to see what components may be difficult to source (like IH stuff). LoL
A few months back I fired up the '61 F100 longbed 4x4 flareside standard cab pickup just because it had been sitting idle.
Gotta love '60's vintage Fords.
All of the big auctions will prove you wrong. There have been 4x4 converted, and even Dodge Chassis swapped crew cabs selling for $200k. I never see 2wd trucks bringing near the money 4wd trucks are. A nicely done 4wd always increases the value, at least at this point in time.
Also, as far as that bumpside crew, 20s seems reasonable. If it had nice paint it would be in the 50s or 60s at least. That's just how the values have gone up for those things.
I'm right with you on the clean Crew Cab pickup values. I've been watching the Crews sell on BAT.
Even ones with dirty undercarriages are bringing like you say, _ _ between 50 to 60 grand. Dirtier than mine.
( I've never yet cleaned the underside of my cab and box, because they still have the thin layer of original paint ).
And, if a purchaser must pay for a full paint job with glass out and no seats or floor coverings, the price is HIGH $$$$$.
For my longbed crew, I purchased 5-gallons of Acrylic paint and blended them all together. Glass out, box off. the right way.
Three full coats of Dupont and has been sleeping indoors for 24-years out of harms way. Spoiled pickup. LoL
Also, I wouldn't undercoat mine or hit it with bed liner, and I never cover anything using POR- cover-up. No way.
I sandblast and use Paint. If a repair or modification is needed, then paint is much easier to work with.
I guess with the heat of a large wire wheel, a guy could maybe remove Bed Liner. Sounds messy.
I picked up a new OEM take off set from a 2024 F250 Crewcab. After sourcing new factory pigtails, I plan on using them on my 77 crew. Hopefully get to it in a couple weeks. I believe that they are built heavier than the amp steps and have a polished stainless trim running the length of them. Brackets are heavy cast.
Doesn’t look like it will be to hard to install. I believe I will use a relay with signal from dome light circuit to activate. Just holding them up to inside rocker, looks like I can use a piece of heavy 3/4 x 1 rectangle tubing to space the top and directly bolt them on the bottom of the mounting pads. Factory used nutzerks. I may try that also.
I picked up a new OEM take off set from a 2024 F250 Crewcab. After sourcing new factory pigtails, I plan on using them on my 77 crew. Hopefully get to it in a couple weeks. I believe that they are built heavier than the amp steps and have a polished stainless trim running the length of them. Brackets are heavy cast.
Doesn’t look like it will be to hard to install. I believe I will use a relay with signal from dome light circuit to activate. Just holding them up to inside rocker, looks like I can use a piece of heavy 3/4 x 1 rectangle tubing to space the top and directly bolt them on the bottom of the mounting pads. Factory used nutzerks. I may try that also.
Very interested in this. I have basically the same boards that I got from a newer F150, very much the same mounting. Not sure how to control them yet though, Ford does it thorough the Body Control Module and I haven't been able to find wiring diagrams to be able to do it without a controller. Also, when I held my boards up, I immediately noticed that the drive shaft between the 2 bracket interfered with the brace under the front seats. I'm also not sure they can be mounted high enough without the brackets hitting the floor. Really curious to see what you come up with.
Spotted this truck on BringATrailer. It is one digit off my truck. It is from the same fleet order as mine but it was sent to Wyoming whereas my truck was sent to Michigan. Pretty cool to see a “sister truck”!
@admallory
Nice metal working artistry on saving that factory blue Crew Cab.
I have often thought about saving a cab by cutting the pillar's and using pieces from a standard cab to re-purpose a new roof.
These early Crew's use to be "ugly-ducklings", but today, they are highly sought after for the guys with $$$ who wish to own a snazzy Crew that is rare and collectible.
Every time I pull into the gas pumps for fuel, some guy will make a complimentary remark putting a smile on my face.
In late 2022, there was a '77 F350 factory Longbed CrewCab chassis for sale on the Pacific Coast for $500. Yes it was a 2wd chassis. That is a Rare-Gem here in California.
If I am correct, which is seldom, I think the 2-wheel drive (F35), F350 Crew was the only way to get a Longbed Crew.
The (F26) and (F36) being a factory 4-wheel drive Crew were only offered in short box.
I like Longbed pickups.
Someone mentioned that LMC Trucks is now offering Drip Rail pieces. That is GOOD NEWS for many.
For those of us who are also addicted to early ****** jeeps, KaiserWillys.com is now offering U.S.A. made replacement lower quarter panels for the ****** utility wagons to replace rusted out areas in the fender wells. I need one for my '57 Wagon.
A late '60's 385 series 429 engine out of a full-sized ford would give the '57 wagon some "giddy-up-grunt."
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