Transmission Problems?
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Originally Posted by saboola
carbonmetallic : Do you have any idea if they performed TSB 755 on your truck when you had all that work done? I am wondering if what you had done is what I am having done, and the tech is just having a hard time explaining it.
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Hi all... Couple quick notes on TSBs...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
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Originally Posted by witenight1
Hi all... Couple quick notes on TSBs...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
. I will probably retroactively buy the 100k bumper to bumper, since I think this tranny is going to see a few more issues prop up. As for the other vehicles, does the Explorer use the same 6R75 as the Expedition? I think the 500 uses some form of 6F?
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Originally Posted by saboola
witenight: Thanks for the post, it answered quite a few questions I had. I got my Expedition back yesterday, and so far it seems to not be having the problems it had (I say so far, since I have not really had a chance to put it through its paces, it only started happenning after sitting in bumper to bumper). They did indeed perform TSB 07-5-5 according to the work invoice. I am crossing my fingers, and am just glad to have my truck back . I will probably retroactively buy the 100k bumper to bumper, since I think this tranny is going to see a few more issues prop up. As for the other vehicles, does the Explorer use the same 6R75 as the Expedition? I think the 500 uses some form of 6F?
. I will probably retroactively buy the 100k bumper to bumper, since I think this tranny is going to see a few more issues prop up. As for the other vehicles, does the Explorer use the same 6R75 as the Expedition? I think the 500 uses some form of 6F?
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Originally Posted by witenight1
Hi all... Couple quick notes on TSBs...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
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Originally Posted by berry1234
Are we looking at a possible future recall?
If there ever is a recall it will probably be about 10 years down the road and most of us wont have the truck any longer
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Originally Posted by carbonmetallic
i doubt it, its hard enough getting ford to own up to the fact there is a problem.
If there ever is a recall it will probably be about 10 years down the road and most of us wont have the truck any longer
If there ever is a recall it will probably be about 10 years down the road and most of us wont have the truck any longer
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Originally Posted by carbonmetallic
i doubt it, its hard enough getting ford to own up to the fact there is a problem.
If there ever is a recall it will probably be about 10 years down the road and most of us wont have the truck any longer
If there ever is a recall it will probably be about 10 years down the road and most of us wont have the truck any longer
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Originally Posted by saboola
To quote the great Fight Club:
Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.
Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.
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From: Boulder Junction Wi
Originally Posted by witenight1
Hi all... Couple quick notes on TSBs...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
"Oasis" is Ford's Technical Service System, available only to Ford employees. It is, along with their printed tech manuals, the service bible... Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are generally internal memos to let service techs (at dealers) know about things which have been found to be problems by Ford corporate tech types. They are generally numbered sequentially, with the year being first, and will supercede prior TSBs which are related... For instance, regarding the 1-2 upshift/downshift issue: the TSBs 07-4-8 addressed if first - but not successfully. Then it was superceded by 07-8-11, which helped, but was also not fully successful. Then there was 07-14-2. It has not been yet superceded, and I'll get it done tomorrow morning and find out if it FINALLY addresses the issue. TSB #07-5-5, which arrived after 07-4-8, but before 07-8-11 is related to transmission issues, but is not exactly the same - and is a MUCH more drastic fix as you've all read...
And yes, Ford is having a tough time getting their 6-speeds to shift properly - on EVERY vehicle which has one... From Explorer to 500 to (now) Expedition. Good luck to us all in our fixes...
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So far so good after the TSB, I am having no issues thus far.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
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From: Boulder Junction Wi
Originally Posted by saboola
So far so good after the TSB, I am having no issues thus far.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
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Originally Posted by saboola
So far so good after the TSB, I am having no issues thus far.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
poppie : Good luck getting Enterprise third party warranty company to honor that powertrain warranty. I had a 2003 Ford Taurus that can attest to that fact. Never again do I buy a rental return, nothing but problems. Hope your luck goes better than mine.
