I agree there is no perfect vehicle. But for me any way it is the response of the manufacturer, it's dealers and their staff to deal with the problem that the owner may have with the new vehicle.
This response makes all the difference. To be able to say to a friend that "yeah my new Ford SUV had a problem, but the dealer got it repaired right away". "Now I am happy and back on the road", is the best advertising you can get.

Also this 07 Expedition has a lot of good things about it too, such as a nice quiet ride, lots of power, easy to handle in tight places, fold down flat seating, power rear door, which is really nice.
Over all other than some problems, it's ok.

 

Ok, sorry for a delay in response. I got my vehicle back Monday night with a replaced transmission (new from Ford). At this point, I was apprehensive to say right away how the vehicle was driving. I also had a rumbling on the highway, that I thought was just an Expedition thing. Two tires refused to balance however, and those were replaced along with the transmission. Also, while they were working on the tires, one of the TPMS broke, so they had to replace that too. Now, so far, everything has been super. It has been driving and riding better than the day I drove it off the lot. The shifter itself feels a little funny, but that might be just me (I was driving my wifes Honda for the weeks it was in the shop, different feeling shifter).

CarbonMetallic: Basically, they replaced the transmission, I think due in part because the vehicle was so new. The tranny had already been opened once, and now to be opened and mucked with again in less than a month, they essentially did the right thing and im glad to say that.

I hope this fixes it. Under Florida Lemon Law, if this does not fix it, it can go through the process (third try). I would rather avoid that headache all-together. I really love the vehicle itself, and if it were not for the problems, it would be a much different situation. I still think the Expedition is best looking and most useful SUV on the road. I hope these fixes are permanent, and I get a good 100k miles out of her. Thanks.

 

I hope your Transmission problem is fixed for good. Glad to see you are back on the road. As for the tires, Mine so far ride smooth and quiet, so I hope yours are to now with the new tires.

As for the shifter, I have found that I have to shift it slowly or the interlock lever will skip it's locking points some time and I will not be in the gear I think I am in causing me to look down at the shift lever to see what gear I am in.
At night it is easy to tell as the shifter positions are illuminated. But in the day I have to look down at the shifter to see what gear I am in and the little red dot don't show up very well in the day.
Well for a young person this is not a problem, but for me wearing bi focals I have to adjust my viewing angle to see the shift lever position properly. It is a minor problem, but I still like the shift indicator on the dash board so you don't have to keep looking down at the shift lever.
It is only a problem if you get old I guess. So don't get old.

Also I am the person in the post "may be it is just me, but" that took the dash board apart on his 07 and painted the red gauge indicators white. This made a huge difference in viewing the gauges during the day and was well worth the effort plus you can still see them at night.

 

Good luck with the new Tranny and tires. I hope all is fixed.

 

sounds like you problem is solved.

Mine seems to be doing better it hasnt acted up in a few days. If it screws up again I am going to try and get a new transmission.

 

AS PROMISED: the latest from Ford, published this past week, regarding our 2007 transmission issues WRT 1-2/2-1/Tip-In hesitation. I plan to have this fix installed on Tuesday, and will advise as to the success or not. I am not hopeful due to the comment below that "some hestitation is normal to ensure smooth operation"... in other words, they're not sure they got it this time.

For those of you who have been following along closely on this issue, the calibration codes they give below are indeed new ones, as the first series for TSB 07-8-4 were in the 47's, and the next set in the 49's... Those shown below are 51's... Further, note the comment that the 2008 models do not suffer this issue. Let's keep our fingers crossed!


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• HESITATION AFTER TIP-IN FROM A STOP/BUMP WHILE BRAKING TO A STOP BELOW 10 MPH (16 KM/H)

</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#0000ff colSpan=2>Publication Date: November 8, 2007</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=230>FORD:




</TD><TD>2007-2008 Expedition</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


This article supersedes TSB 07-14-2 to update the Service Procedure and vehicle model years. ISSUE:

Some 2007 Expedition vehicles may exhibit a hesitation upon tip-in after braking to a stop and/or a bump while braking to a stop below 10 MPH (16 Km/h). This TSB fixes the bump while braking to a stop and reduces the incidence of tip-in hesitation when accelerating from a stop. Some 2008 Expedition vehicles may exhibit a bump feeling while braking to a stop below 10 MPH (16 Km/h). This TSB fixes the bump while braking to a stop issue.

ACTION:

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.



<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>SOME TIP-IN HESITATION IS NORMAL ON THIS TRANSMISSION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SMOOTH OPERATION.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

SERVICE PROCEDURE

The calibration update will help to improve this condition on 2007 vehicles. 2008 vehicles already have this feature incorporated. The harsh bump while braking to a stop will be eliminated. Several days of driving is required for the transmission to fully adapt.

<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE THE MECHATRONIC UNIT. MECHATRONIC REPAIR/REPLACEMENT IS NOT AUTHORIZED FOR THIS ISSUE.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

1. Install IDS/PDS or equivalent and ID the vehicle.
2. Update the PCM/TCM calibration using IDS release 51.8 and higher or 52.1 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2007.11 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com. Since the TCM cannot be independently reprogrammed, reprogram the PCM to ensure that engine and transmission calibrations are updated to the latest level simultaneously.
3. Clear TCM keep alive memory (KAM) and adaptive tables.
   1. Using IDS:
      1. Open Toolbox.
      2. Choose Powertrain.
      3. Choose Reset KAM.
      4. Then Choose TCM.
   2. Using PDS:
      
      1. Choose all Tests and Calibrations.
      2. Scroll down the menu and choose reset TCM KAM.
         
         <TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>FOR PDS, RESET TCM KAM IS NOT THE SAME AS CLEAR TRANSMISSION ADAPTIVE TABLES, WHICH IS UNDER THE POWERTRAIN - TRANSMISSION MENU TREE.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
         <TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>UNHOOKING THE BATTERY WILL NOT CLEAR THE TCM KAM.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
         <TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>DO NOT CLEAR THE PCM KAM.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
4. Verify that the transmission fluid temperature (TFT) PID is above 175° F (80° C). If it is not at 175° F (80° C), drive unit approximately 3 miles (5 Km) to reach temperature.
   
   
   
   <TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>TFT MUST BE AT 175° F (80° C) OR ABOVE BEFORE PROCEEDING TO STEP 5.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
   
5. Drive unit to perform adaptive shift strategy learn:
   
   1. Accelerate from rest with light throttle. The 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shifts must occur at engine speeds between 1300-1800 RPM.
   2. Continue to accelerate gently to 50 MPH (80 Km/h) so that the transmission shifts into 6th gear.
   3. Brake gently to a complete stop and hold foot on brake for at least 15 seconds.
   4. Repeat Steps (a-c) a total of five (5) times.

WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>OPERATION</TH><TH align=middle>DESCRIPTION</TH><TH align=middle>TIME</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>072306A</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>2007-2008 Expedition: Check Diagnostic Trouble Codes, Reprogram The PCM And TCM, Includes Time To Clear KAM And Perform Road Tests (Do Not Use With 12650D)</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>0.9 Hr.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

Thanks for the information. I have to say this sounds like another "here, try this and see what happens" fix to me.
Some tip in hesitation is "normal". Normal?

Well all I know is I had a 51 Mercury with a Merc o matic which as the Ford o matic and it operated smooth as silk with no Bumps, grunts or hesitation when coming to a stop or leaving a stop sign. Of course it did not have a "mechatronic" unit either.

By the way my 07 still starts out in second gear then jumps to low the first shift of the day until the transmission warm up, then it seems to shift better, however it still gets confused at times as to what gear it wants during a forced down shift.
I am afraid to have it looked at as at least it is working so much better than it was before the TSB update at 300 miles and I don't want to solve one problem only may be to cause a new one.

 

I was told there was nothing for 2008s yet....guess what I got it now. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Good info, Thanks for the post

 

By the way the first Ford automatic transmission (the Ford o matic and the Merc o Matic) for 1951 was built by Borg Warner for Ford.
The 1951 Lincoln used a 4 speed GM built Hydromatic.

May be Ford could get a Borg Warner engineer to help them with the 6 speed transmission. I think Borg Warner is still in business unless they were bought out by someone in Japan or China.

Just a thought, anyway. See what lack of sleep does to you.

 

You are not far off. I think they may benefit from a partnership with ZF or Quaif(SP). But we have to deal with what we have now and it may have benn done with Borg. I'll aqsk when I'm in next week.

 

I had the 07-26-02(i think that is the new TSB#) update done to my 08 tranny and what a difference. The Expy is TRANSFORMED. She is not a slug off the line and the tranny shifts are invisible. No bump either. I was told since I have such low milage that it may still change some as it adapts/learns how I drive.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell, I think the gas milage may be up as well. I guess I have had a problem from the first days of driving.

 

Good news. Keep us posted on the long term results.

 

You know I will. SO GLAD I FOUND YOU GUYS!!! THANKS AGAIN!!

 

Sounds good, keep us posted.