Ill bet there keyboard is wore out with all the typing

 

Ladies,
Where I save time is (a) I don't spend much or any time cruising web-articles. Thus, I bought my PSD in Jan 04, without really detecting the problems from it's first 5 months. Secondly, I type about 80 wpm. A long post is just a few minutes of my time.

Heretic: the V10s and V12s would, indeed, be better. But, in engineering design EVERYTHING has a trade-off. If you for more of A, you must give up some of B. Every design decision has this logic to it. This is the part of the engineering world I live in as the System Engineer who is not an expert in anything ... but knowledgable in everything (from economics and the business side, to manpower, organization, mgmt, R&D, materials, quality, requirements analysis, verification and validation, system deployment, full-life cycle planning, system disposal and maintenance ... and planning for the next spiral of development ... all within competitive analyisis and the marketplace dynamic swings).

It's just my GENERAL view that Ford and GM-ISUZU have both taken the RIGHT track for the future of trucks: V-engines with stout automatic transmissions and quality computer integration and control.

When the M-16 service rifle was first introduced, the M-14 reigned supreme in the marksmanship world. It took two decades ... but today ... an M-14 cannot compete with the M-16 for accuracy in championship shooting. It took time for industry to come out with all the add-ons, in-depth knowledge and experience for the new technology to enable users to better fully utilize it.

Similarly most of these "modifiers" are still waiting for industry to catch up with not only V-diesels ... but turbo-charged and electronically controlled ones. By about 2015 I will venture to predict that the Inline-Cummins will be seen in the same line as the old Slant-6. Ultimately ... there is just simply NO WAY that an inline design can offer the same design potential as the V-design. The V basically trades power increase with weight and space. I.e. a flat-engine would be more ideal for power (opposite cylinders). But the vehicle must be bigger, and the weight overcomes the advantage.

Imagine a bowl-shaped curve. The upper left is where the inline engine is. The upper right is where the flat engine is. The lower middle is where the V is for best power with least weight of vehicle to bolt it into. It's the "GOLDILOCKS" solution.

Does anyone know the weight of each of the engines?

 

the weight has been posted somewhere before, but I can't remember where right off hand. It did go cummins - 6.0 powerstroke - duramax from heaviest to lightest though.

 

Yeah, youd think that when you work you rearend off to afford payments for a 40-50k truck, youd get a high quailty vehcile that peforms as advertised. If the oem's want so much money for there trucks then they need to make them high quaily. The build quailty on these trucks is absurd, they are not tough like they used to be. I think that Fords last years of REAL trucks were the 95's and 96's. They ride rough like trucks, only a few problems with them, and they were relaible. On top of that they had the classic styling that I like. I honsely think that the new superdutys look wimpy and soft. But so do the chevys and dodges. I am looking for a heavy duty 1 ton truck to haul stuff because I need something to haul a large goosenecek and I have my eye on a 96 F-350 4x4 SRW PSD crew cab, 5 spd. I think if I do decide to get it Im gonn go with a lot of mods to up the HP and torqe, I may even enter it in a truck pull. I like the sound of it and the clatter it makes at idle. I know the 5spds will outpull the 6spd autos anyday and ill bet with my mods ill beat some 6.0Ls. The only problems I have seen with the 96's are glow plug issues which I will need to learn to repair. Yeah ill need to replace the sound system though the radios they put in them sound like clock radios.

 

Well a little off the subject but funny as well. When I was in high school I had a 53 ****** P/U. It had a 230 CID GM 6cyl. inline that the old man before had put in. For the drivetrain[stock] it was perfect. A friend of mine had a CJ5 with a 327 Chev. in it.
He was always breaking something but when we used to drive on the beach or go too sand dunes he was getting stuck. I rember one time distinctly when the beach patrol was coming and it was time we left[we weren't supposed to be where we were.] He fired that thing up and started giving me hell about my little six cyl. He proceded to mash the gas....spin all four.....and bury himself up to the axles.......I looked at him.....smiled.....eased the clutch out gently and my little torque monster queitly idled away.........he got the ticket.......and all the girls jumped in the back of my rig as I pulled away.........GRIN..........god it was funny.

 

You probly could do pretty good with that '96 Ford352, with a load of mods it should go.

 

Yeah ironman. But who woulda thunk a little 6 could bang out 325 from the factory. As it stands. The cummins has the lead in the aftermarket hp wars. Why? Because it is a stout engine. Even with all its shortcomings it withstands over 1500lb ft of torque on the stock bottom end. How many v8s can triple or qaudruple their factory torque rating and live to talk about it? This is on the oem crank and conrods. They also spin em up to 5500 rpm. Even though their is a harmful crankshaft harmonic at 4100. Im suprised about the harmonic due to the mass of the shaft. I imagined it would be slightly higher. Even with the harmonic. They pull it off.

Yes tim. I spent a month in hawaii. Had to get my demons out.

P.S. I have a few friends in the auto repair business. Ive asked 3 master mechanics and 4 engine builders, none with less than 20 years experience, if theyve ever seen a wiped main on a 300. None of em have.

 

I cant blame you the old style was nice. But nothing stays the same. I remeber people said that back in 1980 when the new models came out that year and they said the late seventies was the last year for good trucks. At least your going with the 350. It had a solid axle like the superduties. What I didnt like about those. They were so high off the ground. Personally I feell in love with the superduty when it first came out. It looks like a truck is supposed to and performs as well too. The 92 -97 HD trucks were some fine looking rigs. No doubt about it. Ford outclassed GM and Dodge for looks. They had the fanciest trucks. Today the superduty is the sharpest looking truck on the road today. Nobody comes close. Ford did everything right on that truck as far as Im concerned. Good luck on your older truck though. The superduty is darn tough truck in my book.BTW I think Fords toughest trucks were the 67-72 models. Those trucks were pratically indestructible. I know a guy who put on 100,000 miles on a 72 F250 and they were all short trips hauling heavy loads all the time through every kind of weather imaginable. No troubles with that truck whatsoever. The 39o he had in there was a tough durable motor that never gave up. Ahh the good old days.

 

I just started reading this thread today. I didn't make it through the whole thread as I would need more time and a MUCH more comfortable chair! I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but you know when Gale Banks built a diesel truck to set the world speed record. I am pretty sure he could use whatever he wants and he used a Cummins. I think it had 700+ HP and 1500 torque. He even used it to haul the trailor both ways! Too bad he's not on this site, that would be a wealth of information.

 

Not only the banks top speed but most any comparisons of the pickup truck diesel engines and cummins rules.Period. In fact the fastest ford pickup truck with diesel is maddogs who happens to have a cummins engine transplanted into it. Horsepower wars are ruled by dodge. You can have a few dyno day events where a ford or chevy win but when you get to the highest cummins rules. 800hp and more! Truck pulls, again cummins. The very best pullers I believe are the Piers and Mitchell pulling trucks and they are Dodges w/cummins. They also have the choice of trucks and choose dodge with cummins.
Now I don't know why this is as usually size matters and the 5.9 is smaller than the 6.0 or 7.3 or 6.6....I think sometimes power of a powerplant vs another is just how a particular engine takes to mods. When you look at gas or fuel drags the v8 rules.
There are several inlines that are newer technology, they are not outdated. When you look at engines in general, using all engines gas and diesel, you see most small engines inline. As you go bigger v's start taking over and then bigger I's come back and take over. It seems to me that v8's are not necessarily more efficient or anything like that, more that they fill a size constriction in passenger vehicles. Thats just looking at whats out there, right? The small I4's rule small, v6's and v8's midsize, Inline from larger dominate. My wager is that v8's will stay where they are. In midsize vehicles where size and consumer demand is. Nothing at all wrong with I's. They are in more engines than v's and will stay that way.

 

Yes that Cummins was in a Dakota bodystyle as well, which undoubtedly kept the overall weight lower than if it were in a Ram. They called it project sidewinder here is the link http://www.bankspower.com/sidewinder.cfm . And dspencer yes the I-6 is my 1st choice of engine right now. I would hate to see the Inline-6 edged out of the market because of the V-8 like Marine Tinman seems to be thinking. I don't consider the I-6 less advanced because they come from the factory with less stock power than your average V-8. Alot of great sports cars still use I-6(mainly foreign) such as BMWs, Toyota Supra(heard speculation of a re-release especially after the movie Fast and Furious), and Nissan Skyline. They are both very good engines for the purpose that they are designed for, the V-8 isn't more advanced it is just simply more. More cylinders that use more gas to get the power to the ground(yes combined with the almighty untouchable gearing Ford seems to posses over all other manufacturers), but this is a general I-6 vs. V-8 comparison I was doing, not strictly Cummins vs. PSD.

Stock the V-8 usually is top dog yes... but I don't want just stock V-8 power, I want to add something for extra juice and I consider the I-6 the best engine to do that with. Although... my friend has a 302 V-8 in his 95 or 96 F-150 and that thing is a PowerJoke; my mother's I-6 Jeep Grand Cherokee matches that so I told him to soup it up because it is the old mustang engine and has great modifying potential.

 

Gale banks used the cummins because he said cummins would work with him. It had 700 flywheel hp. Mind you this is the new hpcr cummins. It was not sent to him with stock power though. Cummins tweaked it before they sent it out the door. Over 400hp. That truck is custom made and has little to do with a dakota or a ram. But it is the fastest street legal pickup in the world. Them common rail trucks just like to make the power. They have hit 1000lb ft of torque with just a box on that engine.

 

What is this are you guys from the Dodge corporation? Sales must be slow on the Dodge side so people are saying that the Cummins is superior. I guess its just to make up for such an inferior truck. All your talk hasnt changed my mind one bit. I will never be driving a Dodge I dont care what it has in it. All you guys be happy with your Dodge. Ill definitly be more happier in my Ford.

 

LOL. I love a good sense of humor. I dont even like dodges. I just like to be the devils advocate. Or the logical heritic.

If you only hear one side of an argument. You only get half the picture. This way. You at least know WHY you dont like em. Its hard to tell whats right and wrong when all you have is a bunch of yes men running around. Yes dodge sucks. But do you know why it sucks? Everybody talks trash but so few actually know. I have driven every make. I get to see their weaknesses.

The best car for your money. Hands down. Toyota corolla. Best quality. Lexus. Best pickup sold in america. F250 and 350. Best engine ever put in a pickup. Ford 300. Toughest diesel ever put in a pickup. Well thats a matter of personal beliefs. I know which one has my vote. I read a poll on another ford site. The majority felt the same way I do on the matter.

 

I have driven every make. I get to see their weaknesses.

You enjoy explaining in detail...what about the above statement.