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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 09:59 PM
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Sorry, I edited that just before you posted this. It's 8.5 in Long in total. The website I bought it from said it was six and a half center to center. I do not have a 36 spline pitman arm I have a 32 spline because it is an e99.
I tried finding a 6.5" one for a 32 spline box once....and gave up; got a 36 spline gearbox. Don't feel bad - early-build 2000s have them too.


 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 10:51 PM
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I tried finding a 6.5" one for a 32 spline box once....and gave up; got a 36 spline gearbox. Don't feel bad - early-build 2000s have them too.
I actually have an early 2000 but it's a two-wheel drive if you use the VIN number anyway

I actually tried to use that 32 spline two wheel drive pitman after my axle swap and it was the wrong splines. The two-wheel drive albeit has the same spline count is a different shaft diameter as well. The pitman arm I have is the only pitman arm they made for the e99 that I can find. I cannot find the longer one you are talking about. I guess I need to get a new gearbox. So, a new gearbox (36 splines)
and the longer pitman arm should fix my steering issue? At least not being able to turn lock to lock part. I have other issues but, one thing at a time.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 01:38 AM
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Detroit Axle - 11pc Front Inner Outer Connecting Tie Rods Sway Bars Ball Joints & Adjusting Sleeves Replacement for 1999 Ford F250/F350 Super Duty 4WD over 8500 GVW
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I used this set, this summer. Claims usa made. And you can see, its a fair bit less than the parts house. So far its doing fine, havent gotten to really test it, off road. But i have run it interstate, with and without a trailer, and handling has been markedly improved from the old ones. I compared piece to piece... weight is very close if not the same. Has a couple more grease zerts than the old did... but that honestly doesnt bother me. I know your feeling the hits, so maybe this can save you some money for the other needs, while still getting the job done, reasonably.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 01:50 AM
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Detroit Axle - 11pc Front Inner Outer Connecting Tie Rods Sway Bars Ball Joints & Adjusting Sleeves Replacement for 1999 Ford F250/F350 Super Duty 4WD over 8500 GVW https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081TQR2R3...YQQH2ZCH05FVNJ

I used this set, this summer. Claims usa made. And you can see, its a fair bit less than the parts house. So far its doing fine, havent gotten to really test it, off road. But i have run it interstate, with and without a trailer, and handling has been markedly improved from the old ones. I compared piece to piece... weight is very close if not the same. Has a couple more grease zerts than the old did... but that honestly doesnt bother me. I know your feeling the hits, so maybe this can save you some money for the other needs, while still getting the job done, reasonably.
Looks like a nice set. Jason recommended me to use xrf parts from eBay. Here is a link to that one. The one you posted is even cheaper. I will have to do some thinking for sure.

This is the set I was looking at. It doesn't have ball joints though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333028162169

And then the one with ball joints.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154357891141

And actually, while looking on eBay, Detroit Axle has some posts on there as well with really good prices. This kit says it's for 2000 and up but aren't they the same? I would think this kit here would also fit the e99 as well. It all looks exactly the same. It's about the same price as the one you linked and it comes with the other sleeve and some other things that the kit you linked did not come with. I think this one here would fit in my truck as well. The sway bar end link might be different but, I do not need those anyway because I just serviced mine with new energy suspension parts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/161962547320


Well, it bothered me. I had to find out what was different about this kit and the one you posted. This kit is actually only 15 to $20 more than the one you posted and comes with more stuff. The only difference in the two kits from what I can tell is the sway bar end links are different on the 2000 model trucks. All the other part numbers are the same. I will post two pictures of the proof with part numbers. I may just get this kit since it is almost the same price and it comes with all the extra doodads. (Drag link connecting collar, codder pins, c-clips etc.)

I don't need the sway bar end links and can save them for a GTG or for Jason!

Thank you for posting about this! It helps me a lot! If I can save money and still get quality, I'm down!




 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 07:29 AM
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I have a 36 spline 4x4 pitman arm in the garage you can have if it is the length you desire. Are you looking for a 7.5" or 6.5" center to center?

Note: Measurements are based on what Cody mentioned above.

I bought it 5 years ago when I bought an AutoZoo steering gear after a catastrophic failure of the OEM gear happened on the road. The pitman arm is new and I just never returned it.

Also, I have used XRF parts in the past and have no complaints.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 07:38 AM
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I have nothing useful to add that others haven't said already. However, has anybody told you you sound like Rodney Carrington?

Also, I got my XRF steering stuff from here:
https://americanundercar.com/product...-ford-f350-4x4

They do a kit with ball joints too.
https://americanundercar.com/product...-f250-f350-4x4
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:29 AM
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I have a 36 spline 4x4 pitman arm in the garage you can have if it is the length you desire. Are you looking for a 7.5" or 6.5" center to center?

Note: Measurements are based on what Cody mentioned above.

I bought it 5 years ago when I bought an AutoZoo steering gear after a catastrophic failure of the OEM gear happened on the road. The pitman arm is new and I just never returned it.

Also, I have used XRF parts in the past and have no complaints.
thanks for the offer! I believe what I need is the 7 1/2" center to center. In hopes that it will let me actually turn the wheel all the way to the right which right now it stops about an inch short of. I thought something might be wrong and sure enough! I turn sharper to the left then I do to the right! Hopefully the 1-in longer pitman arm will fix that. If that doesn't fix it, maybe the combination of tight tie rod ends and the longer Pittman arm will take up that extra inch! The steering radius is bad enough on this truck when it works all the way, losing an inch is too much!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:30 AM
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I have nothing useful to add that others haven't said already. However, has anybody told you you sound like Rodney Carrington?

Also, I got my XRF steering stuff from here:
https://americanundercar.com/product...-ford-f350-4x4

They do a kit with ball joints too.
https://americanundercar.com/product...-f250-f350-4x4
Unfortunately, I have no idea who Rodney Carrington is.

I am still on the fence on whether to get xrf or Detroit Axle parts! Sure do have a nice price on them!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:33 AM
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The steering radius is bad enough on this truck when it works all the way, losing an inch is too much!
You should drive my cclb and then you would think your truck is a little car when you turn in somewhere. The cclb is amazingly wide turning really noticeable even compared to my eclb
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
thanks for the offer! I believe what I need is the 7 1/2" center to center. In hopes that it will let me actually turn the wheel all the way to the right which right now it stops about an inch short of. I thought something might be wrong and sure enough! I turn sharper to the left then I do to the right! Hopefully the 1-in longer pitman arm will fix that. If that doesn't fix it, maybe the combination of tight tie rod ends and the longer Pittman arm will take up that extra inch! The steering radius is bad enough on this truck when it works all the way, losing an inch is too much!
I'll check the pitman arm measurement when I go out to the garage later. I know exactly where it is as I see it on the shelf every time I walk by it.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:43 AM
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You should drive my cclb and then you would think your truck is a little car when you turn in somewhere. The cclb is amazingly wide turning really noticeable even compared to my eclb
I don't know, my truck turning to the right is a nightmare! I pull up to the edge of my driveway to pull out onto the road which is just a 90° turn and I end up in the grass on the other side of the road.... I really want that extra inch of steering radius

I have no right to complain about steering radius though. I'm the one that converted the truck to a 4x4 leaf sprung axle. Worth it! I always get a little nervous when I'm taking a turn onto a road when somebody else is in that lane which only gives me a small area to thread the needle and I can't go into their Lane! Kind of have to swing out and then in to make the turn! I'm adjusting!

I got in a newer style truck the other day that had a coil sprung 4x4 front end and that really felt like a car compared to mine! In fact, the truck that I was in is the truck that I bragged that my truck turned better than when I had two wheel drive. I always made fun of that Chevy for having a terrible turning radius compared to my Ford but now my Ford has half of that same Chevys turning radius

How do you feel about Detroit Axle parts? Jason recommends their hubs for these trucks but I've never asked him about the tie rod sets that they sell. I can get the whole front end rebuild kit with a 10-year warranty for 270$ that is supposedly made in the US. I can get the same kit from xrf for just shy of 500$.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 08:59 AM
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I'll check the pitman arm measurement when I go out to the garage later. I know exactly where it is as I see it on the shelf every time I walk by it.
Thanks! It seems like replacing the whole steering gear is a lot for just an extra inch of steering radius but, every little bit helps! I had a question for you about your blue top steering gear. I was looking at buying one and it said it was $100 more to have the holes pre-tapped. Does that mean what I think it does? None of the holes for the pressure lines and return lines are tapped? I would think that would be a little stupid and I'm sure I'm wrong but if so, what are these extra charges to tap the holes for?
 
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Sorry brother... The new pitman arm I have is 6.5" from center to center. I suspect that is why I ended up using the original pitman arm as it is 7.5". I bought the new one just in case I was not able to get the old one off the OEM gear at the campsite.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
Thanks! It seems like replacing the whole steering gear is a lot for just an extra inch of steering radius but, every little bit helps! I had a question for you about your blue top steering gear. I was looking at buying one and it said it was $100 more to have the holes pre-tapped. Does that mean what I think it does? None of the holes for the pressure lines and return lines are tapped? I would think that would be a little stupid and I'm sure I'm wrong but if so, what are these extra charges to tap the holes for?
It’s like an 80% lower. You have to buy the jigs as well but then you get a steering gear with no serial number i.e. a Ghost Steering Gear (GSG). Not to be confused with a Bluetooth Steering Gear (BSG).
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Sorry brother... The new pitman arm I have is 6.5" from center to center. I suspect that is why I ended up using the original pitman arm as it is 7.5". I bought the new one just in case I was not able to get the old one off the OEM gear at the campsite.
​​​​​​All good! Thanks anyway! Joel shot me a text saying I can get the extra inch of turning by adjusting the tie rod on both ends. Is this true? I feel like if the steering gear is maxing out it will only do so much. Could it be done?
 
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