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Keep in mind my truck is not an e99. It's a 2000 and it was a two-wheel drive. I got my 4x4 front axle for my axle swap off of a e99 truck. The dash and steering shaft and steering column are all from a 2000 model two wheel drive truck. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.
The steering column from the wrecked truck is the same, can only go together one way. As I texted you earlier, you can with a little effort separate the inner and outer steering wheel shaft and reassemble it 180 degrees out and that will fix your upside down steering wheel. After finding a pitman arm that works, you could put it back the original way.
The steering column from the wrecked truck is the same, can only go together one way. As I texted you earlier, you can with a little effort separate the inner and outer steering wheel shaft and reassemble it 180 degrees out and that will fix your upside down steering wheel. After finding a pitman arm that works, you could put it back the original way.
Thank you for the idea. For that matter though in terms of just getting by I could just drive with an upside down steering wheel for the time being. I want to avoid cutting up the factory stuff if possible. I know it wouldn't be a big deal to remove it and flip it but, if I can find the 9 and 1/2 in pitman arm that has 32 splines and a + formation on the splines it will fix my whole problem I believe anyway. The problem is, the only 9 1/2 inch pitman arm I can find has 36 splines. I may have to upgrade to a 36 splined steering gear. Of course my dad said just get the 36 spline 9 and 1/2 in pitman arm and cut the bases off and weld the end of my pitman arm on to the new one so that it will fit on the splines and be 9 and 1/2 in but, I don't like that idea. Seems kind of sketchy for a major steering component. I'm going to keep looking and see if I can find that pitman arm. In the link for the other form that Y2K posted earlier there is a part number for that longer pitman arm but it's for a 36 spline shaft unfortunately. I may just have to change out my gear but, I will do some hefty research first.
So I found this on a website that shows all of the different pitman arms that came on the 99 model trucks. All of the 32 spline part numbers and 36 spline part numbers. I looked up all of the different 32 spline part numbers and most of them there are not even any pictures let alone someone that sells them. The 32 spline 4x4 pitman arms we're only made for the first 3 months of 99 and whatever ones were made in 98. So it seems there's not much on them. I did find one pitman arm that I can have brought to an auto parts store that looks like it's the longer one but it still has the X formation on the splines. I'll post that picture here as well. I feel like the 3-in longer pitman arm would do a lot in terms of how far the wheel has to go to turn a certain amount. It might give me enough adjustment room as well. Also, I just had a thought. So as I've mentioned my pitman arm is 45° off center when the steering gear is centered due to the splines. Obviously, my pitman arm is hitting the track bar mount and I don't have as good of steering to the right so, what if I took the pitman arm off and moved it towards the driver side 90°? It would still only be 45° off from the centered steering gear which is exactly how it is now anyway but it would be on the opposite side so that maybe I won't be hitting the track bar mount and I'll have more steering to the right so I have more room for adjusting the drag link. Man all this thinking is racking my brain. It sure would be nice if I had a 36 spline gear and pitman arm. At least you can buy the pitman arms for the 36 spline gear. Anyway, Here's the pictures. Here's a list of all of the part numbers for the different pitman arms. The part numbers for all of the 32 spline pitman arms are almost non-existent on google. You can't even see a picture of one let alone buy one. Found this at autozone. It looks like the longer style but it has the ex formation on the splines. That's still quite a bit longer of a pitman arm though. I could have it brought to the store so I can look at it and measure it.
Of course my dad said just get the 36 spline 9 and 1/2 in pitman arm and cut the bases off and weld the end of my pitman arm on to the new one so that it will fit on the splines and be 9 and 1/2 in but, I don't like that idea. Seems kind of sketchy for a major steering component.
Not only "no". But "HELL NO!" The track bar is ugly enough and it's not a critical component. The pitman arm is a high carbon forged piece that will crack and fail at the weld.
Do it right or not at all. More food for thought and I am not condoning this repair at all but when I converted my 74 F100 from the STUPID power assist setup (with the hydraulic ram and draglink valve junk) to a 79 Bronco steering setup), I had to modify the pitman arm to not line up with the master splines. A triangle file will take the wide splines right out of a pitman arm, turn them into "normal" splines, and allow you to index the pitman arm wherever you want on the sector shaft.
Not being mean but I am tired of watching you flounder over this and cause yourself frustration to the point of considering doing questionable "fixes" and putting yourself and others on the road at risk.
Not only "no". But "HELL NO!" The track bar is ugly enough and it's not a critical component. The pitman arm is a high carbon forged piece that will crack and fail at the weld.
Do it right or not at all.
You don't have to tell me. I don't like the idea either and I never planned on doing it from the get-go. And also, the entire reason I'm making these long posts is so that I can do it right and not half *** it/chop stuff up and make it work. Even though some of that stuff may work, I am not that kind of person. I want it to be as OEM as possible and be right and safe. That is my entire purpose and the main reason I have been spending countless hours researching and thinking and typing away figuring this out. I was only sharing what my dad said and I never intended on doing it. The only reason he recommended it is because he thought it was a forged piece. He has not really seen the part much and he assumed that being as it's something that needs to be able to take a hit and not break that it should be forged. He has been welding for a very long time and I don't think he was stupid for recommending it for the simple fact he has not seen what is made out of but, be that as it may, I will not be doing it. And believe me, if my dad knew what that pitman arm was made out of he would never have recommended me to weld it.
Not only "no". But "HELL NO!" The track bar is ugly enough and it's not a critical component. The pitman arm is a high carbon forged piece that will crack and fail at the weld.
Do it right or not at all. More food for thought and I am not condoning this repair at all but when I converted my 74 F100 from the STUPID power assist setup (with the hydraulic ram and draglink valve junk) to a 79 Bronco steering setup), I had to modify the pitman arm to not line up with the master splines. A triangle file will take the wide splines right out of a pitman arm, turn them into "normal" splines, and allow you to index the pitman arm wherever you want on the sector shaft.
I posted earlier that Joel recommended me to remove the big splines out of the pitman arm. I still could do that and I still May. That may be the cheapest way to "index" the pitman arm back center with the steering gear. Thank you for fortifying the idea with backup evidence. Instead of taking the steering gear off and opening the system and losing fluid I made just take the track bar and track bar bracket off for the time being so I can take the pitman arm off and remove the big splines. This would at least tell me if centering the steering gear and pitman arm would help my problem. Hell, it may even fix the problem. Who's to say?
Not being mean but I am tired of watching you flounder over this and cause yourself frustration to the point of considering doing questionable "fixes" and putting yourself and others on the road at risk.
And I'm not being mean either. Read the other post I just made before you edited this post. I am fine with it if you do not want to be on this thread helping me correct my upside down steering wheel the proper way. Believe me I may be frustrated but I am not going to put myself in danger or anyone else. When you read my other post you will see that I never planned on doing that fix to begin with and the only reason my dad recommended it was because he did not know what steel it was made out of. He thought it was a forged piece that would take a weld nicely and he has been welding for many many years. Again, if you don't want to be here, then don't. I mean that with the utmost respect, and I still consider you my friend. I don't want you getting frustrated with me and if being on here is going to cause that, it's better for you to go your separate way from this conversation. Please don't take that the wrong way. Again, I consider you a very good friend of mine and I respect you and I do not want to inconvenience you.
Is removing the track bar an effective way to take the pitman arm off without opening the power steering system? Since I have my track bar the proper length, it's not too hard to put on. Turning the wheel to the right spot and stick the bolt in. That being said, Is it feasible? My first thought is it's going to be a pain in the butt to get the pitman arm off. That would be a good time for a pitman arm puller instead of a bfh.
Is removing the track bar an effective way to take the pitman arm off without opening the power steering system? Since I have my track bar the proper length, it's not too hard to put on. Turning the wheel to the right spot and stick the bolt in. That being said, Is it feasible? My first thought is it's going to be a pain in the butt to get the pitman arm off. That would be a good time for a pitman arm puller instead of a bfh.
Puller AND a BFH! Borrow one from auto parts...have to pay for it, then they refund it when you bring it back.
I know that some people don't need to use or prefer not to use a puller, but I have used them several times and it has been a quick, easy and successful task each time.
Please see the details below for the pullers that I have borrowed (free of charge) from our local AutoZone.
I know that some people don't need to use or prefer not to use a puller, but I have used them several times and it has been a quick, easy and successful task each time.
Please see the details below for the pullers that I have borrowed (free of charge) from our local AutoZone.
Alright! I might pull my track bar mount and pitman arm this weekend, remove the big splines and center it to the steering gear and see if I can flip my steering wheel! If it works, I know I just need the + splines on the new pitman arm! Thanks!
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I'm off to the junkyard to go get some metal and get started!
