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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
These guys are on my radar to possibly put in the wheel wells as a running light/directional with ambers in the front wheel wells and reds in the rear. It says you can tap the factory harness and use them as such...

Just a brain storm for now.

Check them out.

https://www.diodedynamics.com/off-ro...ck-lights.html



I think NY has some funny rules about vehicle lighting which could eliminate red, blue, white.

it’s a fuzzy law that intended to focus on those colors if they can be seen from the front or back.

but then with the advent of multi lane super highways…it gets kinda fuzzy (not in your favor) what front or back means.

orange and green are probally ok.


I think the red, blue, white law is enforced more in the metro areas than out in suburbia.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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The only legal color for aftermarket lights in New York is white. Whether or not you'd think that'd be enforced on you notwithstanding.

§ 375 (41). Colored and flashing lights.

41. Colored and flashing lights. The provisions of this subdivision shall govern the affixing and display of lights on vehicles, other than those lights required by law.
1. No light, other than a white light, and no revolving, rotating, flashing, oscillating or constantly moving white light shall be affixed to, or displayed on any vehicle except as prescribed herein.
The exceptions prescribed are for special purpose vehicles like emergency vechiles.

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-yor...article-9/375/
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
The only legal color for aftermarket lights in New York is white. Whether or not you'd think that'd be enforced on you notwithstanding.



The exceptions prescribed are for special purpose vehicles like emergency vechiles.

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-yor...article-9/375/

that’s the under standing I had.

1. No light, other than a white light, and no revolving rotating, flashing, oscillating or constantly moving white shall be affixed to, or displayed on any vehicle .


then you get into the list of emergency vehicles and unattended devices.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
I think NY has some funny rules about vehicle lighting which could eliminate red, blue, white.

it’s a fuzzy law that intended to focus on those colors if they can be seen from the front or back.

but then with the advent of multi lane super highways…it gets kinda fuzzy (not in your favor) what front or back means.

orange and green are probally ok.


I think the red, blue, white law is enforced more in the metro areas than out in suburbia.
NY and the Big Apple, the City I mean, since they are so special that they have their own laws, are goofy period...

Personally. I would never do white, green or blue for my own truck which why I mentioned street legal amber and red. Even for you, can't really see any LE giving you a hard time if you have them in amber and red... doesn't Ford place a red side marker light to the rear of the dually wheel well?

Like I said, it's just a brain storm for now... maybe I'd do amber in the rear wheel well also.

Around here the nozzle nuts, volunteer firemen, used to just have the blue lights but now LE here is starting to use blue in their light bars just like we are.

Even if I did this, I'd go with just the low power mode as running lights if I didn't use them as running AND turn signals.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
NY and the Big Apple, the City I mean, since they are so special that they have their own laws, are goofy period...

Personally. I would never do white, green or blue for my own truck which why I mentioned street legal amber and red. Even for you, can't really see any LE giving you a hard time if you have them in amber and red... doesn't Ford place a red side marker light to the rear of the dually wheel well?

Like I said, it's just a brain storm for now... maybe I'd do amber in the rear wheel well also.

Around here the nozzle nuts, volunteer firemen, used to just have the blue lights but now LE here is starting to use blue in their light bars just like we are.

Even if I did this, I'd go with just the low power mode as running lights if I didn't use them as running AND turn signals.
Just to be clear, this is not NYC law it's NY State law. Amber and Red rock lightning is not street legal, only white is street legal. Anything else is reason to receive the police's attention.

The side marker lights are required equipment so they fall under a different statute. Anything like this is not required equipment which is where the law comes in and says any such lights may only be white.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 02:42 PM
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Legality aside those aren't my style. I think they are marketed to the people who make their jeep an instagram page lol. A few ambers along the running boards would be nice.

NY doesn't enforce jack **** with vehicle lighting colors. The amount of cars with RGB drls or tinted headlamps in nyc/li area is crazy. Heck I've seen people with knockoff/illegal emergency lights on staten island just to move traffic.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 03:01 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. Nobody drives the speed limit, every car around here is tinted illegally. It's whatever, people do these things knowing what's up. I just wanted to be sure good people aren't going into something with a misunderstanding. Otherwise I think that law is dumb. I can understand having laws against specifically designated things like flashing blue, but outlawing everything but plain on white is some overreaching HOA type crap. I see you're in NOVA, I used to live there and the laws there are just as bad. It's not my taste but underglows never hurt anybody.

Here in TX you can do whatever. I see all kinds of crazy lights, flashing blues on non-police cars are common. And you know what? It changes nothing, life goes on just fine while Timmy has his flashing blues. The coasts like laws for the sake of laws. Oh look I'm on my soapbox, oops.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
The only legal color for aftermarket lights in New York is white. Whether or not you'd think that'd be enforced on you notwithstanding.



The exceptions prescribed are for special purpose vehicles like emergency vechiles.

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-yor...article-9/375/
Will dig into this later...

Originally Posted by seijirou
Just to be clear, this is not NYC law it's NY State law. Amber and Red rock lightning is not street legal, only white is street legal. Anything else is reason to receive the police's attention.

The side marker lights are required equipment so they fall under a different statute. Anything like this is not required equipment which is where the law comes in and says any such lights may only be white.
Let me re-state what I said... what I was going along with was the premise that the color amber and red are the standard colors for the front/rear running lights, turn signals and amber for the side markers... as you don't see OEM lighting in the colors green or blue or any other color such as pink, purple, orange, etc. Speaking of purple, I saw a Ford dually last night with purple, probably UV bulbs maybe, in the clearance cab lights with white bulbs in his mirror lights. IMO, looked goofy as eff but to each their own.

I would say that rock lights, even in the white color, are NOT approved by NY VTL laws.

I also had the idea prior to these rock lights of placing VLEDs amber pod lights either under my truck on the sides, by the rockers or under my truck steps. This is all a brainstorm. I have no definitive plans as of yet.

I also have Diode Dynamics'

SS3 LED Fog Light Kit for 2011-2016 Ford Super Duty F-250/F-350


in the yellow version and have seen many LEOs and have NOT gotten bothered. IMO, having AMBER rock lights under the vehicle or in the wheel wells instead of blue, green or red, almost like amber side markers on a trailer, will not grab police attention. The police in WNY are a big brotherhood/sisterhood as opposed to other areas of the country. I should know, I'm part of it. I hear some bad stories of friction between law enforcement at different levels in different states. We don't have this here.

My point is that I would not trying to break any laws as that's why I would do all the lights in amber, the accepted color of side marker lights. I don't think I'd go with red in the rear wheel well if I did install there, I'd use amber. I'm thinking more under the truck now as running puddle lights. So while they would not be 100% legal, that's why I want them in amber, a standard color of light seen on the roads.

There's a local guy I know with a 6.4 deleted dually who placed a combo led light strip on his rockers. It is white but is also hooked up as a turn signal that flashes amber when the signal is used.

Air freshners are not legal either but I still use them.

And yes sir, I am aware of Article 9, Equipment of Motor Vehicles and Motorcycles, Section 375 of the New York State Vehicle and Traffic Laws. More later.

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I was driving into work this morning and going in the opposite direction heading into the next town was an idiot in a Chevy pickup with offset wheels, speeding and an annoyingly loud exhaust. To be honest, that'll get my or any other LEO's attention more than what I'm thinking of doing.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 10:18 AM
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Good to go, you know what you're doing. That's all I wanted to help on just in case there was a misunderstanding on the "letter of the law", not intended to be any kind of criticism.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 10:30 AM
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I wonder if this is legal in ny

 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
Good to go, you know what you're doing. That's all I wanted to help on just in case there was a misunderstanding on the "letter of the law", not intended to be any kind of criticism.
Absolutely... you're spot on... I could have stated it better and more accurately.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
I wonder if this is legal in ny

https://youtu.be/bi_kJFiSUAk
I'll look at this at one point and give you my opinion on it but just be advised, I'm not DOT trained guy at all... but I'll check out the vid and let you know...

I've been a supervisor now for 20 years. I was never a huge VTL guy anyway...

Starting looking at Section 375 and it's LONG... but down there in the metro area, NYC may have a different take on it...
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
I wonder if this is legal in ny

https://youtu.be/bi_kJFiSUAk
I'll check it out now...

Well I know you have a State of Taxation commercial plate so if you were to need that during an emergency event, or if you had to park in the city, that would work. But for a civilian truck, the flashing white and red would get you in potential trouble with NYPD...

What color combo lights do NY's finest patrol vehicles use? Just red and white or with some blue flashing lights also?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Well my lights came in but it hasn't stopped raining. I can hardly wait to install them
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bone
Well my lights came in but it hasn't stopped raining. I can hardly wait to install them
Excellent Bone... Take before and after pics when it gets darker out... I just ordered pieces of. Their shrink tube sized for their application from VLEDs with a set of their new radial lens design for my rear V6 Extremes 3157s.

Going to overkill mine... Pics and commentary to follow. Stay tuned...
 
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