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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 05:40 AM
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If there is smoke out tailpipe your getting fuel and glowplugs could be the issue

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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 05:50 AM
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(ipr shouldnt cause a..no start anyway)....yes it will.
also, not having power on output lug of gpr means either, the pcm senses that your motor is already warm or the pcm ground signal to the gpr went south. Mine did. Now i have a ground switch controlling that gpr
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Do you have a way to monitor ICP, IPR Duty Cycle and fuel pressure as you crank? If so, what are the numbers?
no. Just using an older code reader/programmer From what I’ve seen online, id need a cable, laptop and software
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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no. Just using an older code reader/programmer From what I’ve seen online, id need a cable, laptop and software
Where are you located? There's probably a fellow FTEr nearby with the equipment needed.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by timmyboy76
(ipr shouldnt cause a..no start anyway)....yes it will.
also, not having power on output lug of gpr means either, the pcm senses that your motor is already warm or the pcm ground signal to the gpr went south. Mine did. Now i have a ground switch controlling that gpr
ya thanks. I wasn’t sure consequences about possible IPR malfunction I did pull it out and apart with other work and change orings. All seemed ok and confident it went back together correctly, but it could be an issue

ya when I first changed gpr the output lug was giving power, but I checked it again after and it wasn’t. Truck is inside garage and was cranking for a while so not sure what temp it would shut down at or if could be the pcm? It seems like I have the click on the key turn (as per video) but I guess doesn’t guarantee pcm is working

As I continue to trouble shoot, my first question is why did I go from two codes (p1000 and 0381) with my old GPR to multiple with the new GPR? (Maybe just because new one was working properly and opened the circuit to show the other codes?)

a detailed reader during attempted start up would be helpful


 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Where are you located? There's probably a fellow FTEr nearby with the equipment needed.
up north in Calgary AB.

Harder to work on 7.3’s up here because of the prices here and time to get parts sent up. Ford dealer here wanted $125 per fuel line fitting and after market parts don’t stock parts like diesel orings, riffraff, etc south of the border.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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up north in Calgary AB.
Post up new thread both here and in the regional forums asking for help with a 7.3 scanner.

Alternatively, a laptop capable of running Forscan can be had for as little as $200 on eBay and then get this dongle:

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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Post up new thread both here and in the regional forums asking for help with a 7.3 scanner.

Alternatively, a laptop capable of running Forscan can be had for as little as $200 on eBay and then get this dongle:

OBDLink MX+ OBD2 Bluetooth Scanner for iPhone, Android, and Windows https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JFRFJG6..._PStvEbA6DDY0K
thanks. That’s a good idea as I plan on keeping the excursions and doing more work to it. Will probably do both

 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:56 AM
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I'm no guru by any means, but reading through here I wanted to spitball an idea since you worked on the fuel bowl. I can't tell if you're saying it's trying to fire off or not, so is there any chance that the fuel bowl heater has shorted out and blown the fuse?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Dave
I'm no guru by any means, but reading through here I wanted to spitball an idea since you worked on the fuel bowl. I can't tell if you're saying it's trying to fire off or not, so is there any chance that the fuel bowl heater has shorted out and blown the fuse?
It’s cranking but not catching. And no sign of it catching. I think as per above it’s fuse 30 so I will check it but it would show signs of starting I assume
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mod7.3
It’s cranking but not catching. And no sign of it catching. I think as per above it’s fuse 30 so I will check it but it would show signs of starting I assume

I checked fuse 30 (and other fuses) and it’s fine
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 01:59 PM
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I checked fuse 30 (and other fuses) and it’s fine
WTS light coming on? We're going to need to see those ICP and IPR DC numbers.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
If there is smoke out tailpipe your getting fuel and glowplugs could be the issue

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thanks for this. I will start working thru I replaced the glow plugs with ford/motor craft along with the valve cover gasket so they should be fine No/minimal smoke from exhaust as I crank it
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mod7.3
thanks. That’s a good idea as I plan on keeping the excursions and doing more work to it. Will probably do both
i have an older diabl sport tuner that is specific to 7.3 Powerstroke, and has diagnostic options as well as real time data, streaming and log playback. options, but when I pick egr in streaming, it says not compatible with vehicle




 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
WTS light coming on? We're going to need to see those ICP and IPR DC numbers.
yes wait to start appears and goes off normally after about 8-10 secs. But then comes back On a sec or two after start cranking. Can t remember if that part is normal or not.
 
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