Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

My "01" Excursion Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:02 AM
  #271  
carbon coupe's Avatar
carbon coupe
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,997
Likes: 206
From: South Eastern Michigan
Club FTE Gold Member
You will be glad you did a TT. My noise from the diff was the bearings, same noises and circumstances. Mines been perfect for about 80k now.
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2023 | 01:54 PM
  #272  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Originally Posted by carbon coupe
You will be glad you did a TT. My noise from the diff was the bearings, same noises and circumstances. Mines been perfect for about 80k now.
Gonna need a little advise/help on the rear end. I'm still waiting on the dealer to let me know what specialty tools they have that I can borrow, yes they will loan me tools, but I don't need every single specific tool listed in the shop manual, I just don't know what I can improvise on, or just buy a cheap knockoff.
A recent "Sticky Situation" in my front yard with the camper proved the current limited slip clutch diff was fully slipping. To boot I have what sounds like pinion bearing noise under load. The rear end is all original to my knowledge, so I'm not picking and choosing, at what to replace, it's all getting rebuilt.



 
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2023 | 03:52 PM
  #273  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Got things started this weekend, have no clue what I'm doing, but things are making sense, and seem to be progressing OK. Haven't identified any bad bearings, or cups as of yet, but there are some wear points here and there which may be giving me my noise, including the axle bearings, or the LS bearings. I got things removed, and the outer pinion bearing cup installed, The Ford dealer loaned me 2 Rotunda kits but they are incomplete, and we never found a specific kit for this job. About a billion dollars later this weekend, I have ordered a ton of one time use tools, and 2 Rotunda kits. I'm feeling wear on the accell face of the ring gear teeth that has created a deeper area where the contact point has been, the right carrier cup appears to have been spinning against, or wearing into the right shim, there is a definite ridge there, and the outer pinion surface that contacts the outer bearing cup looks scored too. This may all be from loss of pre-load on the pinion bearing from age and wear.















































 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 10:38 AM
  #274  
WI Dan's Avatar
WI Dan
Mountain Pass
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 191
Likes: 49
From: North Central WI
I love the implication that the Ex is so big you need a swimming pool to service the differential fluid!!
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 11:18 AM
  #275  
Antonm's Avatar
Antonm
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 983
Likes: 366
I took a similar, but slightly different, route , put a Eaton Detroit truetrac in the back.



And a basic lunchbox locker in the front (swapped a dana 60 in the front, lots of locker selection for the 60, not so much for the normal dana 50 that excursion's come with).


Hopefully I'll never get stuck in my yard, because if do, the dang yard will be tore up afterwards with now actual 4x4 going on (which would suck for trying to get grass to grow again).
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 11:41 AM
  #276  
MasterX's Avatar
MasterX
MUST GO FASTER!!!!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 356
From: Arizona
Club FTE Gold Member
I just did my true track as well when i did the gears and driveshaft and all.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 02:18 PM
  #277  
JAck19's Avatar
JAck19
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 831
Likes: 171
From: Greenville, TX
Originally Posted by Antonm
I took a similar, but slightly different, route , put a Eaton Detroit truetrac in the back.



And a basic lunchbox locker in the front (swapped a dana 60 in the front, lots of locker selection for the 60, not so much for the normal dana 50 that excursion's come with).


Hopefully I'll never get stuck in my yard, because if do, the dang yard will be tore up afterwards with now actual 4x4 going on (which would suck for trying to get grass to grow again).
My set up is almost identical, except I went with an E locker instead of a lunchbox. I will pretty much guarantee that you won’t get stuck. This set up is absolutely insane and having that locker upfront makes it grip in the worst conditions.
My set up is almost identical, except I went with an E locker instead of a lunchbox. I will pretty much guarantee that you won’t get stuck. This set up is absolutely insane and having that locker upfront makes it grip in the worst conditions.

and I love seeing the progress. I’ve probably said it 100 times now, but your attention to detail is so far above and beyond most guys, and that to me is a big part of what makes this truck so great.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:14 PM
  #278  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Originally Posted by WI Dan
I love the implication that the Ex is so big you need a swimming pool to service the differential fluid!!
That pool was bought for the top end injector work, and for cleaning the engine valley since the truck was in the garage for all of that work.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:20 PM
  #279  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Originally Posted by JAck19
My set up is almost identical, except I went with an E locker instead of a lunchbox. I will pretty much guarantee that you won’t get stuck. This set up is absolutely insane and having that locker upfront makes it grip in the worst conditions.
My set up is almost identical, except I went with an E locker instead of a lunchbox. I will pretty much guarantee that you won’t get stuck. This set up is absolutely insane and having that locker upfront makes it grip in the worst conditions.

and I love seeing the progress. I’ve probably said it 100 times now, but your attention to detail is so far above and beyond most guys, and that to me is a big part of what makes this truck so great.
Thanks, but I really have no idea what I'm doing here, I'm stumbling through, spending too much money on specialty tools, when I could probably do shortcuts, as I've seen in videos, but since I've never done this before, I'd rather do it with the correct tools the first time, that way I can understand the reason the shortcuts are done the next time. All I need to do is damage the housing, and I'm screwed. So we learn by choice. I decided to do the "in vehicle repair" here instead of removing the axle, and bringing it to the back of the garage under the new lean-too. It's rainy season here, and winter, with the time this will take, it may show signs of rust from moisture.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:36 PM
  #280  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Originally Posted by Antonm
I took a similar, but slightly different, route , put a Eaton Detroit truetrac in the back.



And a basic lunchbox locker in the front (swapped a dana 60 in the front, lots of locker selection for the 60, not so much for the normal dana 50 that excursion's come with).


Hopefully I'll never get stuck in my yard, because if do, the dang yard will be tore up afterwards with now actual 4x4 going on (which would suck for trying to get grass to grow again).
The embarrassing thing I never mentioned after getting stuck in my own front yard was how I got out.
I tried myself with the neighbors tractor, but even though it was in 4x4, i never knew to press the foot pedal to lock in the diff, so the tractor was just spinning it's wheels.




So,,, here comes the help....










 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:44 PM
  #281  
Antonm's Avatar
Antonm
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 983
Likes: 366
A little bit of left foot heel on the diff lock pedal and that little tractor would've probably pulled you out. I have a similar sized Kubota tractor (an L3130 to be exact), and its pretty amazing how much work a little 31hp tractor can get done.
But getting an Excursion pulled out by a 1/2 ton Chevy,,,,just embarrassing.
...
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 08:16 PM
  #282  
wizkid00104's Avatar
wizkid00104
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,053
Likes: 21
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Looks great! I enjoy watching the details on this because I will have to do it one day as well. Truetrac is the route I'd like to go in axles with 4.30s or 4.56s to make up for the little 5.4L under my hood.
 
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2023 | 09:16 AM
  #283  
EXSwap's Avatar
EXSwap
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,666
Likes: 182
I know what happened to your rear diff. It's those dang wheels again.

Too bad I don't need them now, or I could take them off of your hands.
 
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2023 | 04:44 PM
  #284  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Originally Posted by EXSwap
I know what happened to your rear diff. It's those dang wheels again.

Too bad I don't need them now, or I could take them off of your hands.
My neighbor keeps telling me it's because of my new tires, had I had the Kevlar GoodYear Wrangler's back on there I probably would've made it through. They were not practical for towing, which I started doing a lot of.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2023 | 06:20 PM
  #285  
01__Excursion's Avatar
01__Excursion
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,103
Likes: 536
From: Rock Hill, SC
Didn't make much progress today. Ran to town, the post office for one of my tool orders, (sig required), received other tool deliveries (lots), and the press arrived today. Got the large pinion race installed, then put together the press, surprise, nowhere was it mentioned that the press was shipped with no hydraulic fluid, I think I have some.
The large bearing race installer can be used with one of the OTC driving handles, I have the long, waiting on the short to arrive. Because I was in a sitting position, it was tough to get the race to bang in straight, it kept going in crooked, so I switched to the OTC draw bar that I also bought, and installed both race drivers and draw bar between the races, and drew them in to their seats. Went in very smooth. Tomorrow, I should make some progress, the large bearing needs to be removed from the old pinion to see if there was a shim between the bearing and stop on the pinion. Then I can prepare the new pinion for installation. I am still waiting on one more Rotunda axle service kit to arrive.
I do know there are several shortcuts, I have watched many videos of the 10.5 being rebuilt. I chose to go the shop manual route with as many of the OTC tools I could round up as I have never done this before. Going forward, I will learn the the shortcuts as I perform the work based on the shop manual.



Bearing seal plate, T75L-1165-B, (205-090) Aftermarket
OTC large handle D81L-4000-A (205-D055)
Differential Gauge Handle T76P-4020-A11 (205-111) Aftermarket





OTC Large pinion bearing cup installer. D81T-4616-A (205-D049)




OTC Large pinion bearing cup installer. D81T-4616-A (205-D049)





OTC Drive Pinion Depth Gauge. (205-423)




OTC Draw Bar T75T-1176-A, (205-098), Carrier bearing remover set 205-S419, Collets (205-430), sleeve (205-431), Step Plate (205-432)




OTC Axle Bearing remover T85T-1225-AH (205-224)




OTC Draw Bar, T75T-1176-A (205-098)




Universal Bearing Puller D84L-1123-A (205-D064) Aftermarket




Differential Carrier Bearing Installer D81T-4221-A (205-D044) Aftermarket





OTC TKIT-1985-FH-1




OTC TKIT-1985-FH-1




Rotunda T80T-4000-A Kit




Rotunda T80T-4000-A Kit





VEVOR Carrier & Pinion Bearing Puller, Compatible with Dana 30,40,50,60,70, 80, Ford 10.25" Bearings, Pinion Puller Tool with 3 Clamshells, 45# Steel Clamshell Bearing




Eastwood 12 Ton Floor Shop Press








1/4" drive Inch Lb torque drive by Insize.




2-3" micrometer





Race Started




Large race installer with ram handle




Draw bar with both race installers




Installed race.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:40 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE