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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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GW or CC is, has been and always will be a "Wealth Transfer Scheme". Remember the "Carbon Credit Scheme", Gore was going to be the carbon credit broker. "The Paris Accord" another scheme to bleed the American taxpayer. In all these years no-one has come up with an effective way to control the worlds climate. That's because humans are too insignificant to control the climate. We havn't changed the climate in the past and probably won't change it in the future.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCylinder
GW or CC is, has been and always will be a "Wealth Transfer Scheme". Remember the "Carbon Credit Scheme", Gore was going to be the carbon credit broker. "The Paris Accord" another scheme to bleed the American taxpayer. In all these years no-one has come up with an effective way to control the worlds climate. That's because humans are too insignificant to control the climate. We havn't changed the climate in the past and probably won't change it in the future.
Dang, where's the Like button? You nailed it. Gore wanted another way to make money when he didn't win. Poor baby. He is absolutely self absorbed to proclaim that we could have enough of an impact on the earth to change the weather. It's ridiculous.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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Y'all know I've said it before,so with that said,I won't. Everything is frozen, including the septic system. I've had enough. I'm looking to go south(not that they have it any better right now) I'm getting too old for this aggravation. I wonder if my home owner insurance is going to cover this. I know all the pipes are cracked for sure now.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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Northerners say that we Southerners can't drive in snow. I call BS to that, BTW, our snow is now ice and the back roads have a lot of it and nobody can drive safely on ice.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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The ones that can't drive in snow are people that live in Seattle.
They panic with just one flake. But then we get the real stupid
ones a few years back. They go down hills in a buss and crash through
the barricade and get to hang out over I-5.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Northerners say that we Southerners can't drive in snow. I call BS to that, BTW, our snow is now ice and the back roads have a lot of it and nobody can drive safely on ice.
to me the northerners are pampered compared to the southern drivers... theyre roads are plowed by a vast fleet of trucks, and treated to the point as one of my northern friends put it "more salt and sand on the roads than there is concrete/asphalt under it"... so their road conditions are alot better compared to the southern states that when we get the snow maybe if your lucky has A plow truck or 2 to clear a city of 1.5 mill people.. and hardly any stuff to lay on the roads to improve driving conditions... ive lived in the north and south.. driven on both when theres been heavy snow fall... theres a big difference in driving conditions when comparing the 2...
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 03:00 PM
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to me the northerners are pampered compared to the southern drivers... theyre roads are plowed by a vast fleet of trucks, and treated to the point as one of my northern friends put it "more salt and sand on the roads than there is concrete/asphalt under it"... so their road conditions are alot better compared to the southern states that when we get the snow maybe if your lucky has A plow truck or 2 to clear a city of 1.5 mill people.. and hardly any stuff to lay on the roads to improve driving conditions... ive lived in the north and south.. driven on both when theres been heavy snow fall... theres a big difference in driving conditions when comparing the 2...
I'd agree with that, mostly. Any relative differences is rapidly being erased as driver education and standardized licensing or testing requirements become just a quaint memory in the minds of doddering old fools. The weather folks have gone "All Hysterical, All The Time" and locals have usually taken to shutting down the schools or starting late for even a light dusting, or breathlessly intone on the news what it "feels" like at any given temp. Jeeze Louise it is pathetic.

The first snow or icestorm of the season always shows people in the ditch all over, as people always drive WAY too fast for conditions. It would be funny if it wasn't so deadly, we're talking major league idiots.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 03:04 PM
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This is an extremely interesting video a little less than 15 minutes long, done by UC Davis with a bent towards Climate Change and how Lake Tahoe was formed, all the things that we know have happened in and around it and how we affect it.

Even though I first viewed it as a hack at mankind and how WE are the GW creators, the narrator doesn't really go there, and in fact points out things like invasive species and lots of natural events -- he even mentions Tahoe enduring a One Thousand year drought at about 13:45 into it.

Bottom line for me was how LITTLE we can permanently affect our world, versus what nature itself does: past, present and future. The animation is really cool, hope you enjoy it:


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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 03:42 PM
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Interesting documentary, I agree with your statements. IMO mother nature could wipe us away and let the earth sit for millons of years without like. The Earth will wipe all of our footprints away and repopulate it. Our existence will never be known. Or, the sun will burn out and we have a dead solar system.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Excurvelle
Interesting documentary, I agree with your statements. IMO mother nature could wipe us away and let the earth sit for millons of years without like. The Earth will wipe all of our footprints away and repopulate it. Our existence will never be known. Or, the sun will burn out and we have a dead solar system.
Yup... Something wiped out the dinosaurs that we now burn in our trucks! Giant meteorite? Yeah, something big that blots out the sun for a long time, maybe changes oxygen content, etc.: and voila - Ice Age and no air breathers alive...

You, know -- I've thought of a come-back the next time one of my Libber friends brings up Global Warming, ready?:

"Yeah, well without global warming this whole place would still be nothing but ice!"...

Feel free to use that in your personal talks with the "creator of the World Wide Web": AG....

Scott
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 07:12 PM
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sometime when one of yall are under the hood of your 6.0's could you measure how far down from the full mark the min mark is on the degas bottle.... i know they used a sticker to represent the min mark but mines fallen off at some point.. and i want to try and remark the bottle with either some paint or sharpie...
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 07:40 PM
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Hummmmmm. Snow driving.

February, 1978 Exxon had plans to more the Graftek carbon fiber group from So. Plainfield, NJ to Raleigh, NC and sent us down to Raleigh two at a time for a week to see if we would move with the Company. Joe and I checked out the area and were ending our tour as a snow storm was forecasted to come up the coast. Two days before our expected departure we decided to have dinner at a restaurant at I believe the Crab Tree Mall. It was highly recommended, they would bring a slab of raw meat to the table, you directed the thickness you wanted, they cut and charged as weighed. So as they brought the main course the waitress told us we could not have desert as they were closing the mall. Joe and I just looked at each other, it hadn’t started snowing as yet and was scheduled for overnight. Driving back to our hotel at 7pm no one was on the streets, it looked like it was 3am. No snow. Joe and I discussed the situation, and thought it would be best to leave a day early.

Next morning it was snowing, not a big deal. Joe and I had no problems getting to Raleigh-Durham, streets were empty. Our Eastern flight was still on, and up we went, and down. The plane dropped into DC, the NY airports were closing. We tried to get a rental car, but none were available. We got a taxi to Amtrak while the trains were still running and were able to get a run into Newark. Arriving it was around 11p. There was about 16-18” of snow down. Joe was able to get a taxi to Jersey City where he lived. I had my E-150 at the airport.

For 15 minutes it was pretty bleak. Here’s a farm kid two years out of college in downtown Newark, in a major blizzard. Another guy popped up and within a few minutes a Gypsy cab could be spotted. He wasn’t too anxious about stopping for us, but did. The other guy got dropped by his home and the driver agreed to take me to the parking lot at EWR. Then I had to hunt for the van, and the parking lot really wasn’t plowed. Found the van, the 351W started up easily, but I still had to get out. I had BFG A/T oversized on it, everyone thought I had a 4x4 van, but just L/S.

Made it to the toll booth at the parking lot exit, but had to wake up the one very surprised attendant. Drove to West Orange to where my future first wife lived as driving south to Barnegat was not an option. An interesting drive anyway, mostly uphill. Storm laid down about 24”, a major. Considering where I was, not a bad place to be stuck for the weekend.

I went with the company to Raleigh, for a year. Joe didn’t. But the next winter all of us Northerners were always astonished how Raleigh shut down for a dusting. We would all make it to work, none of the natives did, puddles might be frozen.

While the current time frame the treat of lawsuits for not having clear roads may have led to an overactive road clearing compared to prior times, there are still areas not cleared that well, and not for us older folks who don’t have an issue with snow covered roads. But then we were trained without traction control, sway control, ABS, and a steel cage around us. A 1965-66 289 Mustang like both my second wife and I had as our first cars was a fine training tool with their very light weight over the rear axle for low traction conditions, starting, stopping and turns.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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Very neat story Jack -- funny how we look back at our lives and the things we did and got away with (safety-wise)...

I was an avid skier in my late teens through late 20s, so living in the SF Bay Area, had to drive to and through the snow. Somewhere in the middle of that age range was where I figured out having a 4x4 was WAY better than putting on chains...

While I was single, I would pick the vacation dates the married with kids folks (who had priority) didn't: end of January, heck, I'll take my whole TWO weeks and go live at Tahoe. You sure get to be a whole lot better skier with that intense time on the slopes. But also a whole lot better driver in less than optimal traction conditions...

Ahhhh the memories... Most folks get, well, insane when the car gets loose. And then there are those in the snow belt that learn things like throttle steering, like the back of their hand...

You drop snow on the SF Bay Area and it would be... Not a place you'd want to be....

Hope Leslie is feeling better...

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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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Thanks. Yeah there are a couple of past things where I could have easily not be here.

Thanks 2, she is fine, cutting hair and the bruising wasn’t as bad as she expected.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 08:23 PM
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Jack just curious... do you happen to know how far you are from Bill?? no real reason im asking.. just curious how close yall were to each other distance wise lol
 
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