[QUOTE=87crewdually;17651098].17HMR works very well over 100. My 22 would knock the dust off of them and they'd run to there hole to see another day. Now with the 17, they just drop. I use a Hornady 20gr round with the ballistic tip.[/
CCI 40 gr hollow , I just bought the Hornady 30gr Vmax, can’t do over 50 yards for the livestock being in the way , but I’m sure the Savage 22 mag would still be on Q at the 100, I’ve heard a lot of good reports on the 17 Hmr, that was the big decision back when I was looking to buy .

 

Everyone ready for the internet protest tomorrow?

 

what protest??

 

Net Neutrality.

 

Does that mean we can't be online all day or we aren't part of the protest? I guess since when you 1st posted it, it was yesterday, so that must mean it's today.

In which case you and I Sean, are not protesting... Look there's only a couple more days to buy ammo online in CA -- they need to plan their protests better...

 

No it more like a net overload. So things may turn out being very slow.

 

So then we are part of the protest? My connection speeds are running faster than normal, so maybe folks were as confused as I was, as to stay off or double down on your internet activity...

I have to go to the dentist this AM, so I won't be "protesting" during that time

Anybody else have a morbid fear of going to the dentist like my wife and I???

Scott

 

Net Neutrality was instituted in 2015, I am in IT and IMO this is a bunch of nothing. ISPs will cut their own throats if they start throttling sites and changing traffic priorities. What has changed since the time before 2015 and to now in Dec 2017?

 

i always thought they were looking for oil in mine.. every time i went they wanted to drill... course over the last couple years ive had $2500 worth of work done at one and another $500 at the surgeons.. so i guess they did find oil in them..

not seeing a dentist in 13 years does a number on em..

 

Dentist Too much money and THE PAIN.


And here is the Email I got today (link below)
Dear Sean,

We need your help to break the internet.

In just two days, the FCC will vote to repeal Net Neutrality and destroy the fundamental protection of the free and open internet.

The only thing that can stop them is an overwhelming public outcry. So today, we are joining a massive effort alongside major websites like Etsy and Pinterest, to break the internet with a massive show of support for Net Neutrality.

All day today, we’ll be making noise about Net Neutrality on social media and asking you to contact your members of Congress--take action instantly by clicking here.

This is our last chance to show our elected officials that we are against FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to give corporations massive power over how and what we access online.

Losing Net Neutrality will hurt every single one of us -- except the rich corporations like Comcast and Verizon that will make billions.

They want to control which websites we visit, limit access speeds, and charge extra fees for using websites like Facebook or Netflix.

This move will stifle historically marginalized communities and new grassroots movements empowered through online organizing. And everyone will lose out on a vital component of our 21st century democracy -- the free and open internet.

With your help, we won’t let it happen. Take action and help show your support for Net Neutrality right now.

Thanks for all you do,

Aimee Martinez, Digital Strategist
and the team at Common Cause

Here is the link from the Email.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/

 

Common Cause was all I needed to read.

 

The LECs have always controlled the Internet, they own the Infrastructure. Century Link just bought Level 3. AT&T wants Time Warner, they already have Direct TV. It goes on and on. You are already restricted by their slowest router, they control bandwidth to your house. Don't pay to re-register a domain and see what happens to your website. None of it is unrestricted. Net Neutrality is a way to rile up the Millenials threatening to take their precious phone connections away.

 

Thanks for the explanation. I owned Level 3 prior to the close of the merger -- they had more dark fiber than anyone else I had heard of. So with the plummeting price of Century Link post merger I doubled down right near the bottom. I was reading that while they are #3 of the big guys, they are tiny compared to Verizon and AT&T, yet they supposedly own the largest back bone in the world.

Let's see: 5G is about to roll out and they will want to get that signal to ground and into fiber in as short a distance as possible. Seems to me a company that owns a huge amount of dark fiber, is about to light it up!

I guess that puts me in the "against Net Neutrality" group; so I will limit my internet activity today and instead go to half price margarita Tuesday and my favorite Mexican Restaurant!

(I mean I have to support something.... )

Clean bill of health at dentist, doesn't mean my pulse and BP wasn't up the whole time though...

Scott (an out-of-the-closet Capitalist)

 

We just ran new dark fiber between our 2 data centers, the project started before the merger. Level 3 has some sorry contractors moleing the fiber across town, the Level 3 DWDM tech did a great job, the project has a few hiccups and is not complete yet but the fiber is lit with very little DB loss.


Most cell towers have a fiber backbone already. Level 3 was 2nd to AT&T in backbone. Ma Bell is as big as it was before deregulation.

 

For us locally, Spectrum just bought Time Warner a couple months ago. So far no joy, lots of local commercials over the National feeds, often out of time and serious volume issues, many are for Spectrum themselves, going on endlessly about how committed to service etc. they are while my connection speed waivers endlessly between 3 and 25mbps. They even manage to squeeze their ads into my YouTube viewer. How does that even work?!? Their cable boxes are cluttered with stuff I don’t pay for, volume varies widely from one channel to the next and sometimes things I plan on watching have no audio at all. If I call customer service, it out of state (at least its not offshore) and I have no way to contact my local office directly except to walk in their door. Interestingly, my TV’s upstairs are all on Roku of firestick and I have no issues there. I’m thinking of dropping my TV subscription and just streaming what I want to watch from the net depending on how this Net Neutrality thing goes, and I suspect that a lot of people are doing that which is part of what’s driving the issue.

As a child of the 60’s, I grew up loving TV but they have nearly ruined it completely. We have some of the biggest, thinnest, highest quality TV’s we could have ever imagined with an unbelievable number of channels and now....there’s nothing on but blaring commercials and liberal brainwashing programs. Maybe our ancient alien creators will return and fix everything.

Sorry, rant mode off.