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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Dumb question, but there aren't any hillbilly blocks under your front springs are there? That could screw things up. height wise.
Nope no blocks. I am the second owner of this truck. I purchased it from a woman at 64,000 miles. The only mod she had only the truck was some 16 inch American racing wheels and stock size tires. She never did anything else to it.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Doesn't sound like anything else is wrong but the huge amount of lift from the springs.
All that lift is causing the track bar to pull the axle over.
I'm not familiar with the 4wd set-up but welding the track bar may not be a good idea depending on material and a longer bar may require steering gear mods.
How many leafs in the pack? Manipulate the pack some?
My 2c now that the room is empty
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Doesn't sound like anything else is wrong but the huge amount of lift from the springs.
All that lift is causing the track bar to pull the axle over.
I'm not familiar with the 4wd set-up but welding the track bar may not be a good idea depending on material and a longer bar may require steering gear mods.
How many leafs in the pack? Manipulate the pack some?
My 2c now that the room is empty
2 leafs in the pack. When we put the ex's spring side by side the new ones there's only like a 2 inch difference.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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2 leafs in the pack. When we put the ex's spring side by side the new ones there's only like a 2 inch difference.
I have to ask, did he loosen the eye bolts again on the leafs with the ex on the ground and re-torque.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002exPSD
2 leafs in the pack. When we put the ex's spring side by side the new ones there's only like a 2 inch difference.
Here's a thought, are you sure you had OEM Excursion springs in the car before you swapped? I see in your signature, 34" tires? Was that with the old spring setup?
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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We need pic of the whole suspension to see what is going on
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Trying to get pictures of the setup. Got held up with the ranger today. Started overheating for no reason.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Ordered a fab tech adjustable trac bar. Should be in Monday. All the off road shops I talked to around me said anytime the truck is being lifted 0-whatever inches even if using factory springs from a different truck to lift it must use an adjustable trac bar(prefered method) or a drop bracket for the trac bar(cheap but not adjustable). Even the 2.5 inch leveling kit they sell at the shop close to me (the mud hole) suggests using an adjustable trac bar to keep proper alignment.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Here's a thought, are you sure you had OEM Excursion springs in the car before you swapped? I see in your signature, 34" tires? Was that with the old spring setup?
Yes. Springs were oem. Ford stamped right on them. Sagged really bad. So bad my bump stops are all chewed up. Ran a set of bfg mud terrains 305/60/18's for a couple years which translates to 34 inch tires. Never rubbed lock to lock. Have 285/65/18's on a set of 2004 Harley davidson 18 inch wheels. Cracked the rockstars while offroading and 2 of the bfg's exploded on the interstate. One did over $6000 in damage to the side of my truck the other about $2000 worth of damage to the front.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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You're kidding, right? So you think everyone that's posted before you regarding their X code install was lying? Or they somehow got the wrong springs?

Wow...ok.

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Originally Posted by 2002exPSD
That's the only explanation.




Ok, all kidding aside, I know you're more than likely very, VERY frustrated. So I'd like to think you don't truly believe that all the people, on all the different forums who have swapped in X codes on their Excursions, are bald faced liars, and are actually members of a huge conspiracy to cause people like you, to make a mistake and order X codes, and after all these years of perpetuating the conspiracy, you're the very first person to fall victim to their fiendish ways.

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Here's a thought, are you sure you had OEM Excursion springs in the car before you swapped? I see in your signature, 34" tires? Was that with the old spring setup?
That really doesn't matter, because if the springs he ordered are the correct X codes, they would work no matter what he had on his rig before, with the given that his truck is in 100% correct working order.

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All the off road shops I talked to around me said anytime the truck is being lifted 0-whatever inches even if using factory springs from a different truck to lift it must use an adjustable trac bar(prefered method) or a drop bracket for the trac bar(cheap but not adjustable).
Absolutely, 100% WRONG.

It's HIGHLY recommended an adjustable track bar is installed for W codes, X codes, or anything higher, but way, WAY too many people have kept their OEM track bars with V codes (myself included) X codes, and even modified X codes. A person does not HAVE to upgrade, but it sure is a good idea to upgrade when using X codes.

There are four reasons I can think of right now as to why you're having problems:

1. Ford drastically changed the specs of the spring part number you ordered, because you did indeed order an X code.

2. Your invoice shows the correct part number, but the spring is the incorrect part.

3. Something is out of whack with your front end.

4. Your mechanic is doing something wrong.

We're trying really hard to help you out. And like I said above, I know you're probably really frustrated, but keep in mind, it's not a good idea to call the people who have done this mod for many years, liars.

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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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I'll go with option 1.
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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If Ford did change the specs of the X codes is there anyway to find out what the new specs are?
 
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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i have lifted 2 different excursions, one with X-codes and one with 2.5" shackles.

never once have i touched the trac bars or drop brackets.

idk what you have going on....
 
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Originally Posted by robbragiel
If Ford did change the specs of the X codes is there anyway to find out what the new specs are?
The OP said he compared the new X codes with his old springs and there was only a 2" difference. Even with a higher capacity, there's no way the new springs will LIFT the truck 6" over what he had been sitting at.

The chances of Ford having changed the spring capacity is slim and none, and slim never even made it to the dinner table.

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2 leafs in the pack. When we put the ex's spring side by side the new ones there's only like a 2 inch difference.
Originally Posted by 2002exPSD
That's the only explanation. If the facts I'm presenting are true which they are. Then how can I get 6 inches of lift from only one part, x code springs.
Obviously I can't sit here and say with 100% certainty that Ford didn't change the specs, but let's be serious here foks, we're looking at a 2" difference when the springs are side by side, but when installed on the truck it's a 6" difference? So with no weight on the new springs, it's only a 2" difference from the old springs, but once they're on the truck (with weight on them!), they magically lift the truck so much there's now a 6" difference?

Something aint right and lacking further information, my bet is there's something wrong with the front end, and/or the mechanic is doing something wrong with the install.

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Old Sep 7, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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im wondering if the previous owner had put on the suspension drop brackets you can get where it drops the leaf mount points down.
 



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