WOW! That was close! I agree with others, you better spoil that boy. LOL

Welcome aboard.

 

You think about $75 worth of fireworks for an 11 year old was a start?

 

Good job Grandpa.

Did you also let him practice siphoning? You know, just to help pass along a tradition or right of passage?

 

You continually spend a lot of time spitting bile at Ford on Ford truck forums for someone who doesn't own a Ford truck, didn't pay much for his repairs, and has so much toe-curling hatred of the blue oval. Are you a masochist or a troll? It seems like you type out your posts one-handed, while the other is otherwise occupied, clicking "Submit Reply" in a fit of ecstasy.

 

In Ric's defense - He not only was a huge supporter of Ford - If I remember correctly - his wife's family all had worked for Ford for years - Like Dad, brothers, etc...

Anyway - while the insurance picked his up - minus deductible - he generally felt like he got royally screwed but the 1st dealer that he went to also - similar to OP...

He drives a Chevy now but kept his Ford after the rebuild for a good while - although he never trusted it and sold it here recently - I also notice that he suspended his FTE membership (temporarily??)...

Yes, he got angry and laid it on pretty thick back when and after it happened but he felt unusually "Burned" because of his previous relationship with Ford and the "crappy" dealer whom first got his hands on his truck (Not his regular dealer)..

Just my 2 cents........

 

I know his story. He won't let anyone forget it. He's been actively and often undeservedly sharp-tongued and catty like a scorned lover throughout this thread over the last few months.

 

Yep! - Scorned lover effect!!! -LOL



Maybe this would help our fuel pumps...

https://i.imgur.com/gpALGIH.gif

 

He got sent on "vacation", gave the moderators one too many fits.

 

All kinds of well lubricated jokes spring to mind.

 

I know how he feels. I have had my problems with Ford, fared better though. 04 missing a compression ring and a BS repair. Had other government problems too but since they have the system rigged and screw you, you are just wired to screw them harder. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

How can one not be angry over a "tech" who "smelled water" and caused the start of the nightmare portion of the issue?

 

Maybe you're independently wealthy or something, and can afford to pay for peace of mind.

However, for people who depend on their truck, day in and day out, for their business (for example), should not have to pay additional money over and above what is usually a 45k+ truck, to have peace of mind.

The product should have been made right in the first place, and properly supported by the dealer in the first place.

Just because somebody may buy an additional warranty, it may or may not be covered under it, as all warranty companies these days try to weasel out of the cost of claims. Not only that, but this is a MAJOR repair, which can take weeks.

If you have somebody depending on their truck for their job or business, there are additional costs beyond the additional warranty coverage.

The HPOP issue should have been addressed at the design and testing stage, not at the retail dealer stage and it's obviously not being addressed at the warranty stage.

No, I'm not promoting lawsuits. They just tend to happen when customers are repeatedly ignored and abused.

The 6.0 had http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsu...on-settlement# a settlement issue with it. I'm guessing history will repeat itself.

 

I don't think the lawsuit thing is going to happen regarding the fairly rare HPFP problems, as they are nowhere near as prolific as the busted coolers and valves and head gaskets on 6.0L engines which, while not guaranteed to ever happen at all, were relatively common and not clearly attributable to external influences. The failed HPFP occurrences seem to be mostly able to be blamed on non-diesel contaminants (water, gasoline, maybe others) introduced accidentally or incidentally to the fuel system. That's different from just plain failing prematurely. Additionally, if you have decent auto insurance (maybe even cut-rate insurance, not sure) they may cover the cost of repairs if it's determined that the system was destroyed by contamination from a fuel station.

The crappy thing about that 6.0L class-action lawsuit is that while it's a lot better than most where you get a $1 off coupon or something (since they'll actually reimburse you the cost of repairs) it only applies up to 6 years or 135k miles. My injector module, EGR cooler, and oil cooler together cost me about $3,300 not to mention lost value on the truck I traded in. But I won't see a dime out of it because while the truck was only 4 years old, it was over the 135k limit. I bought it at 2 years old with 150k worth of gentle highway miles (some foreman's Lariat truck). So I'm SOL.

"Angry" is different from rickatic.

 

No, I'm not, just a regular working class gal like the the majority of owners on here are. My peace of mind costs me about $250/year, through Geico. And if you can't afford that, just wait 'til your first oil change or fuel filter replacement! You need a different truck, these are not cheap to buy OR maintain. Get ready for it.

I would think those folks would be the ones standing in line to buy additional coverage. How could they not?

Isn't that true of any manufacturer, not just Ford?

My bet is that it went through extensive testing before being implemented. You don't just throw something like that into a brand new engine design and *hope* it works.

The numbers aren't even close to the same - a few failures does not a class action lawsuit make.

 

The Geico Mechanical Breakdown Insurance (MBI) that you are referring to is basically analogous to Ford's warranty.

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*MBI Exclusions
Exclusions to this policy include regular maintenance services such as tune-ups, suspension alignment, wheel balancing, filters, lubrication, coolant and fluids, spark plugs, brake pads and linings, brake shoes, and tires. Also, breakdown repairs made necessary by intentional damage, corrosion, misuse, or improper maintenance are not covered. Mechanical Breakdown Insurance coverage is in excess of coverage provided by your manufacturer's warranty. Read the policy amendment for the complete terms and conditions of this coverage.
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So, corrosion or misuse, which is what Ford is hiding behind to make the customer pay for HPOP faiures (gas in diesel tank, water in biodiese), etc. could cause a denial of the insurance claim as well.


You're still subject to an insurance adjuster who can allow or deny the claim. The only thing that is better about it is that you get to use a facility of "your choice".


Read the fine print GEICO | Mechanical Breakdown Coverage ~ Protect your new car with MBI


In other words, if somebody is frazzled, away from home on a trip, and picks the "wrong" facility, and somebody says the wrong thing, the same result can happen.


Plus, you're limited to the first 100k miles for the MBI.


Peace of mind? Maybe, assuming you play your cards right.