Bleed ford until hpfp failure
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Holy moly, if the ol' lady comes home with a knee cramp, you take her out back, off her with a shot gun, and burry her body under an oak tree?
lol
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From: Milford, MI
As a dealer employee ( not Ford), what I see that screwed Rick and the OP is once an inept dealer said bad fuel, they demanded their truck back knowing it was BS. Problem in doing that however is when it actually is bad fuel frequently less scrupulous customers will use the opportunity to mask or remove the root cause of the failure( say flush fuel system) and go to another dealer and try again. I see this much more frequently than dealer incompetence unfortunately.
If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
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From: Door Cty/Florida
As a dealer employee ( not Ford), what I see that screwed Rick and the OP is once an inept dealer said bad fuel, they demanded their truck back knowing it was BS. Problem in doing that however is when it actually is bad fuel frequently less scrupulous customers will use the opportunity to mask or remove the root cause of the failure( say flush fuel system) and go to another dealer and try again. I see this much more frequently than dealer incompetence unfortunately. If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
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From: Great Falls, Montana
As a dealer employee ( not Ford), what I see that screwed Rick and the OP is once an inept dealer said bad fuel, they demanded their truck back knowing it was BS. Problem in doing that however is when it actually is bad fuel frequently less scrupulous customers will use the opportunity to mask or remove the root cause of the failure( say flush fuel system) and go to another dealer and try again. I see this much more frequently than dealer incompetence unfortunately. If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
If this happens to me I will fight it out at dealer number one or try to talk Ford into taking it for 2nd opinion somewhere else.
Plus video tape every action..............
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Since the cost of Giecos MBI was brought up, along with my name, I will clarify the cost.
I just looked at my latest declaration page, and the cost for my 2011 Dmax has crept up a little.. I am now paying $20.90 for 6 months.
I think I will keep the coverage.
I just looked at my latest declaration page, and the cost for my 2011 Dmax has crept up a little.. I am now paying $20.90 for 6 months.
I think I will keep the coverage.
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I looked into MBI and it is not available to me as I have 29,000 miles. It will also only cover up to 100,000 miles which is only 2.5-3 years for me.
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Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Leavenworth, KS
I purchased the MBI and even though it's only good for 100,000, it's still really cheap coverage for peace of mind...and it is good for 100,000 miles. I liked that posters "only 100,000 miles" comment. Better to be covered for any amount of time than not be. Just my 1.5 cents (depreciation).
Regards,
Randy
Regards,
Randy
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Joined: Sep 2003
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From: Mesa AZ
In my opinion...the dealer needs (and quite frankly is expected) to be the customer's advocate in these situations. I am sure that Ford has done a great job training their dealerships how to check for conditions that will allow them to deny warranty coverage. However, the dealer should also make equal effort to help the customer since they have Ford's ear. Since the technician diagnosed the cause as water in fuel....he/she should have then taken several more samples and sent one to a lab for more scientific analysis (vs just the styrofoam test). This should have been done BEFORE reporting anything to the Ford hotline.
Then if the fuel tests good then the dealer contacts the Ford hotline and recommends warranty coverage. If the fuel tests bad then the OP would have a possible insurance claim (either with their own carrier or the fuel station where it was purchased). In this scenario, the customer is treated as fair as possible. Of course, hindsight is 20/20....I am not sure I would have been thinking in such a logical fashion if I was in the same situation as the OP...
At any rate...
The OP e-mailed the invoices to me in hopes I could post them here.
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Check this out
Polystyrene can be dissolved in biodiesel, boosts power and emissions
"Polystyrene is pretty much an environmentalist's nightmare. It's difficult to recycle in most areas and does not biodegrade if simply thrown away. But, because the stuff is so incredibly useful, it is produced and used in tremendous quantities. There's good news for biodiesel fans who want to reduce the amount of polystyrene in the environment and want to get a bit more kick out of their biofuel.
Two researchers at Iowa State University, Najeeb Kuzhiyil and Song-Charng Kong, have found that it is easy to dissolve packing peanuts into biodiesel; the enhanced biodiesel then produced more power in a diesel engine, as long as the polystyrene makes up no more than five percent of the biodiesel. The downside is that harmful emissions also increased. This is not too surpising, since petroleum is often used to make the styrofoam in the first place. According to Kong, quoted in New Scientist, the polystyrene cups dissolved quickly in biodiesel, "like a snowflake in water.""
Polystyrene can be dissolved in biodiesel, boosts power and emissions
"Polystyrene is pretty much an environmentalist's nightmare. It's difficult to recycle in most areas and does not biodegrade if simply thrown away. But, because the stuff is so incredibly useful, it is produced and used in tremendous quantities. There's good news for biodiesel fans who want to reduce the amount of polystyrene in the environment and want to get a bit more kick out of their biofuel.
Two researchers at Iowa State University, Najeeb Kuzhiyil and Song-Charng Kong, have found that it is easy to dissolve packing peanuts into biodiesel; the enhanced biodiesel then produced more power in a diesel engine, as long as the polystyrene makes up no more than five percent of the biodiesel. The downside is that harmful emissions also increased. This is not too surpising, since petroleum is often used to make the styrofoam in the first place. According to Kong, quoted in New Scientist, the polystyrene cups dissolved quickly in biodiesel, "like a snowflake in water.""
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I can't believe they actually get away with stuff like this.