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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Yeah... I want to change to 4.10s in my Bronco, but everything I've been researching is pointing me in the direction of having a shop do the instal and to not attempt it myself... Either that or I can get a front and rear axle with 4.10s and swap my axles for that. I don't know how to swap axles though. I don't know if, since I have my 3" lift, any welding or special things need to be done to change out an axle, or if its just as "straightforward" as bolting/unbolting things up. If no welding or adjustments have to be made, I may look at axle swapping, but otherwise I may have to save up for a shop to give me 4.10 gears someday. Then I have to save up for edelbrock heads and a cam! I'll probably do that myself though.. but that leads me to:

I still need another backup/commuter car too but it has to be cool! I just wish the 70s mustangs were cheaper, that way I'd get one of those and maybe swap in a fuel injected 5.0 or something so it gets decent mileage. Otherwise everything is pointing towards the third generation camaros, but I suppose I'll see for sure when I get to test drive one.
I will support you on your search for a 3rd gen, but if you go to a 4th gen you will be teased and ridiculed heavily =.= them cars are uuuugly..
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My dad put a 3.91:1 gear ratio in a 9" rear, in our garage by him self. Under a car jacked up. It's not too terribly hard, but that's also not the first time he's done that stuff haha. Don't buy junk yard rear end parts, who knows what the condition the parts are, but that's just my opinion .
Well i pulled a whole c-6 with transfer case attached while the truck was in my garage and didn't need to jack it up. Of course the whole assembly fell over onto the floor from about 2 feet off the ground. But it worked nonetheless. I'm sure i could do a rear end, i just have to get the money for parts and fluid and whatnot, and a second vehicle to drive. I have my Ranger but i need to sell that and find my vw bug first I am adamant about that being my next ride.

Now i do remember ont he rear end of a suburban we worked on in shop class a few years ago, it had a sort of "king" nut that needed torquing to about 200-400 foot pounds. It was on the yoke for the driveline, anyone know if it will be the same for me? If so then that could pose a problem. I don't have means to get that much torque, my impact gun says it goes that high but i don't know if i would trust it to.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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I will support you on your search for a 3rd gen, but if you go to a 4th gen you will be teased and ridiculed heavily =.= them cars are uuuugly..

Well i pulled a whole c-6 with transfer case attached while the truck was in my garage and didn't need to jack it up. Of course the whole assembly fell over onto the floor from about 2 feet off the ground. But it worked nonetheless. I'm sure i could do a rear end, i just have to get the money for parts and fluid and whatnot, and a second vehicle to drive. I have my Ranger but i need to sell that and find my vw bug first I am adamant about that being my next ride.

Now i do remember ont he rear end of a suburban we worked on in shop class a few years ago, it had a sort of "king" nut that needed torquing to about 200-400 foot pounds. It was on the yoke for the driveline, anyone know if it will be the same for me? If so then that could pose a problem. I don't have means to get that much torque, my impact gun says it goes that high but i don't know if i would trust it to.
Well, your 9" rear gears pull out from the driveshaft side as a whole unit, you change everything on the bench and slap it back in, of course it's not that simple but it's way easier to work on than a regular back cover rear end.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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I will support you on your search for a 3rd gen, but if you go to a 4th gen you will be teased and ridiculed heavily =.= them cars are uuuugly..

Well i pulled a whole c-6 with transfer case attached while the truck was in my garage and didn't need to jack it up. Of course the whole assembly fell over onto the floor from about 2 feet off the ground. But it worked nonetheless. I'm sure i could do a rear end, i just have to get the money for parts and fluid and whatnot, and a second vehicle to drive. I have my Ranger but i need to sell that and find my vw bug first I am adamant about that being my next ride.
Yeah I definitely think the 4th gen camaros are super ugly, I would much rather get pretty much anything before I get one of those. But I really like the look of the 3rd gen ones.

A second vehicle would make all these projects I want to do (and ones I've done previously) much less stressful and more fun. I can't wait to get another car (probably camaro unless a super good deal comes up on a 70s mustang) so I can do heavier projects on my truck, but I know I will be doing pretty heavy projects on the other car I get too. As for a V/W, I used to like the way the look, but then I got kinda tired of them but they aren't bad at all. I do hear they can get super awesome mileage though if you work on them a bit, so it would be a pretty nice car to have, and I'm sure they are pretty easy to work on. Then you can fix your gearing because I'm sure the high gears you have in your truck make it seem like your Bronco bogs down much more than it should!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Well, your 9" rear gears pull out from the driveshaft side as a whole unit, you change everything on the bench and slap it back in, of course it's not that simple but it's way easier to work on than a regular back cover rear end.
Yeah, unfortunately i don't have much of a workbench. I will probably end up working on it outside since my parents park in the garage. If i could purchase one of those tent things i could put that up for rain then get plywood for something to roll around on. I know about the third member and all, i just hope there isn't any bolts that will need super strong torque, otherwise it will take a while to do. I feel like since i did the hubs on TGM i can do anything on this truck haha even though this will be another challenge i feel like i can do it.

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Yeah I definitely think the 4th gen camaros are super ugly, I would much rather get pretty much anything before I get one of those. But I really like the look of the 3rd gen ones.

A second vehicle would make all these projects I want to do (and ones I've done previously) much less stressful and more fun. I can't wait to get another car (probably camaro unless a super good deal comes up on a 70s mustang) so I can do heavier projects on my truck, but I know I will be doing pretty heavy projects on the other car I get too. As for a V/W, I used to like the way the look, but then I got kinda tired of them but they aren't bad at all. I do hear they can get super awesome mileage though if you work on them a bit, so it would be a pretty nice car to have, and I'm sure they are pretty easy to work on. Then you can fix your gearing because I'm sure the high gears you have in your truck make it seem like your Bronco bogs down much more than it should!
Yes those are ugly. We used to have mustang meets with a forum group i belonged to and the camaro guys would crash the party after a while. There were a few 4th gen ones and they really didn't look good.

As for the vw, I am looking at something like this



I grew up watching the Herbie movies and fell in love with the bug. I am not super fond of the other vehicles but i wouldn't complain too much owning a few of them. For gas mileage, they get normally around 30 mpg since they are a 50 hp 4 banger. You can easily make the motor stronger though and it is easy to take the motors out. For maintenance, they are notorious for dripping oil but i am sure it can be fixed relatively easy. Being aircooled there is no coolant and the rockers need to be adjusted every oil change but otherwise thats about it.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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[QUOTE=GruesomeJeans;12443254]Yeah, unfortunately i don't have much of a workbench. I will probably end up working on it outside since my parents park in the garage. If i could purchase one of those tent things i could put that up for rain then get plywood for something to roll around on. I know about the third member and all, i just hope there isn't any bolts that will need super strong torque, otherwise it will take a while to do. I feel like since i did the hubs on TGM i can do anything on this truck haha even though this will be another challenge i feel like i can do it.

The 9" rear end of probably one of the easiest rear ends to work on because everything comes out easy, you could put the new gear set in the housing in your bed room if you wanted to. LOL, when you put the new gear set in it's probably a good ideal to put new bearings in on the ends, they aren't pressed on or anything, they look like connecting rod bearings. Last time I looked up parts for one they weren't very expensive at all.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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The 9" rear end of probably one of the easiest rear ends to work on because everything comes out easy, you could put the new gear set in the housing in your bed room if you wanted to. LOL, when you put the new gear set in it's probably a good ideal to put new bearings in on the ends, they aren't pressed on or anything, they look like connecting rod bearings. Last time I looked up parts for one they weren't very expensive at all.
Haha don't give me any ideas now The bearings your talking about, are they on the tire side of the axle? If i have to pull the axle shafts i might as well do the studs as well. Mine are getting kind of old and i am afraid they will get broken. New studs and lugnuts.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Haha don't give me any ideas now The bearings your talking about, are they on the tire side of the axle? If i have to pull the axle shafts i might as well do the studs as well. Mine are getting kind of old and i am afraid they will get broken. New studs and lugnuts.
Well now that I look closer, there are some pressed on bearings, go on google images and type in Ford 9 inch rear end and you can see pictures of them apart. But when you take that out you and change stuff generally should have new bearings and seals put in.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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I see. I will research it a little bit of course. I don't have plans to start working anytime soon. Heck i should wait till after winter so i don't freeze.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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I see. I will research it a little bit of course. I don't have plans to start working anytime soon. Heck i should wait till after winter so i don't freeze.
Yeah, spring/summer would be a good time, warm weather and it's daylight for a long time.
 
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Plus, i need to try driving the bronco in the snow/ice without my front tires having power. See if it handles better. Last year it did terrible and i think that was the reason. If it does help that my be the reason i need to put in a 205 t-case to replace the 203.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Plus, i need to try driving the bronco in the snow/ice without my front tires having power. See if it handles better. Last year it did terrible and i think that was the reason. If it does help that my be the reason i need to put in a 205 t-case to replace the 203.
You have an NP203 in your bronco ? I could have swore that most had the NP205 ?
 

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yup np203 full time t-case. I find it unique, and I am pretty sure it is the original.
 
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yup np203 full time t-case. I find it unique, and I am pretty sure it is the original.
If you lived around the Fort Wayne area I would offer to swap you transfer cases. I would love a full time 4x4 transfer case.
 
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I don't like it so much due to always applying power to the front even when unnecessary. I currently have my front driveline off right now. I think eventually once i get my lift and fix my gears and what not, i will look at swapping for a 205. As far as i know it's a better t-case.
 
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I don't like it so much due to always applying power to the front even when unnecessary. I currently have my front driveline off right now. I think eventually once i get my lift and fix my gears and what not, i will look at swapping for a 205. As far as i know it's a better t-case.
I heard the NP205 is better. But, for what I plan to do with Rustoleum the NP203 would be perfect for my needs.
 
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