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^^ Chris,.......Put a GOOD quality Russian, Yugoslav, Rumanian, E. German, or Polish AK on a bench rest and be prepared to have a myth about poor AK accuracy, busted...........
Put a Chinese or Egyptian AK on the same rest, and you will see where the myth started.
Not in the same league with the European counterparts.
I have no doubt they make many accurate AK's now, but I don't think they will have the same reliability as the original design. Of course that kind of reliability isn't really needed by 99% of the population.
Many moons ago I had the opportunity to fire a Russian issue AK 47 from the prone and offhand position on a 300m / 500m kd course. The AK was not as accurate in my hands, or many of the other hands I watched that day as the M16A-2 was with iron sights on the same course.
Perhaps things have changed, or perhaps I just got a hold of a bad one for our little training session. But from what I've seen, the AR-15 platform can be accurate out to 500 meters with iron sights firing from the prone position with no bench rest or sand bag, the AK-47, not so much.
Once you get above 500m, the bolt actions really start to shine. That is of course unless you bring in a Barrett. Then all bets are off. But of course we don't want to go there because the Barrett fires a .50 BMG, which of course was named for John Browning and then we're back to that whole Kalashnikov vs. JMB talk again. (Although I'll take an M-2 over an AK-47 any day )
Wow, I sense it getting heated somewhat in here, I think like most of you that a superior design warrants respect regardless of what country it came from. I am all for American and love this country, that is why I served it in the Navy for 24 years, but sometimes someone else does it right as well. by the way, this is my 300th post...lol
I don't think so. These kinds of discussions are fun. The more you hear about other peoples opinions and experiences, the more you have a chance to learn. Especially since we can't all afford to go out and buy every single weapon ever made so we could form our own opinion about them.
I probably have less experience firing an AK than Dave here, but I did learn a bit about Kalishnakov. I've always been a fan of JMB, weather it by a Winchester 1894 or a Colt 1911, or the good ole ma duece (all 3 designs are still being produced and used today).
This is supposed to be a firearms thread where we discuss some of the weapons we know a little or a lot about. If you were in the Navy for 24 years, you probably got to see the R2-D2 fire more times than the rest of us, and there's a good chance I've fired more rounds through a Mark 19 than anyone here.
Tell us about what you know and are familiar with. That's part of the fun of these discussions.
Chris, did you know that JMB considered the P-35 (Browning Hi-Power 9mm) his personal masterpiece, not the 1911?
Except he died before the design was completed. Part of that was because they had to wait on some patents he sold to colt to expire. He also wasn't a fan of the grip safety on the 1911, but put it on there because the army required it. (an option to delete the grip safety called the answer is now available).
As for the P-35, of course I have one. I like the signature series. My wife likes her practical better. I'm still a 1911 fan at heart. Mostly because I've had so much training with it that it is familiar and comfortable to me. Although I can still operate a hi-power with my eyes closed. (very similar design)
"Someone" I know WAS the owner of a 9mm Hi-Power with German eagle and swastika proof-marks, built in Belgium in '42 .............But they let it get away.
You want me to rough them up for you a bit? I once thought I was going to be able to get a 1911 from WWI for a very reasonable price, but he decided to hang onto it and will it to his kids instead.
Do I remember reading that you work at a gun dealer?
Where in the truck is the best place to keep that pistol?
I've got a 2011 F-150 (XLT trim). Where do you guys keep your pistol or revolver in the truck? I'm kind of thinking the compartment under the center fold down front seat area. Or maybe a readily available pocket holster under the front seat? Any better ideas than that?
Please don't leave your pistol in the truck full time, it will eventually join the masses of stolen firearms. There are some holsters made to mount to desks and beds, what about one of those? You would likely have to put a few screws into your trim though. I usually carry mine on my person. Occasionally I do carry something in the center console, I have a smaller carry pistol that mounts to the opening lid.