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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Im watching UFC for the troops too after last night, i kinda wanna go get in the octagon!!!

Oh another cool house thing we did was house wrap. i dunno exactly how much it helped, but it seemed to help!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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I like the big garages, for sure. I think 15 acres might be my max, I don't want to have to take care of all that property. Unless of course I can lease it out to a nearby farmer, but thats a road we can cross when we get to it.
15 acres is a big place if you move from the city to the country. Once you live in the country for several years, 15 acres is a small place. Keep an open mind and grab a bigger place if the price is right. A nice tractor and shredder and you can mow 3 - 5 acres an hour, and that doesn't need to be mowed every week. You can also put some animals out there to help with the mowing.

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Buy the most land you can afford. ... youll regret not buying it!
Like they say. The reason land is so valuable is they're not making it anymore.

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I had a 1930's house in Denver and my winter heating bills were really low. Had I more time there I would have insulated that house to the hilt.
That may be true, but look back at some of the old O/T threads and read about all the stuff you needed or wanted to do to the house. Mark is right. Buying a 100 year old farm house will cost you in heating bills and give you a never ending list of things to do.

If you've got the time, you might want to consider building. You can build a brand new house that looks like an old farm house and be a lot better off.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Nevermind the fact that old farm houses have very low ceilings and almost no level floors or straight walls.

My family has an old 100 acre dairy farm that is no longer operational as a dairy farm, but still has the old barns and the old farm house. We are working on fixing the farm house to rent out. I've spent 3/4 of my time there just trying to get doors and windows to open and shut properly. I'm not overly tall at 6'0 and I have a tough time getting through a lot of the doorways.

Old farmhouses may seem cute and romantic, but in reality they're a major PITA.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Mark is right. Buying a 100 year old farm house will cost you in heating bills and give you a never ending list of things to do.

If you've got the time, you might want to consider building. You can build a brand new house that looks like an old farm house and be a lot better off.
Ok, I'll bite. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having a brand new house that looks like a charming old farmhouse..but for some reason I am under the impression that I must outright own a piece of land before I can build on it. Is that true?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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I say buy you a fixer-upper (whatever style you want)with a lot of land, get that draft test done, take a weekend and insulate it right and enjoy yourself til you get to the point where you MIGHT want to build your dream house with the proceeds from the fixer-upper...just my .02

And yes, its is definitely easier to complete one RE transaction for the land AND the house than it is to buy the land, find a contractor, blah blah blah...
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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No clue about what contractors are charging in Iowa.......but it was at least $25 a sq. ft. more to BUILD a new house, then it was to buy one only a couple years old here. Prices in my city are completely insane though lol

On another note......I'm out scouting for Deer this afternoon, and I dropped my GPS off a 60 foot cliff! It was smashed in about 50 pieces lol. Time to buy another one in the morning! Gotta have it, the area I am hunting is hike-in only....no quads, trucks, anything motorized. I LOVE IT! I saw two niiiiiiice Bucks too
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 7.3 Rocket
Nevermind the fact that old farm houses have very low ceilings and almost no level floors or straight walls.

My family has an old 100 acre dairy farm that is no longer operational as a dairy farm, but still has the old barns and the old farm house. We are working on fixing the farm house to rent out. I've spent 3/4 of my time there just trying to get doors and windows to open and shut properly. I'm not overly tall at 6'0 and I have a tough time getting through a lot of the doorways.

Old farmhouses may seem cute and romantic, but in reality they're a major PITA.
You're right, I agree with you 100%. We're renting a 1890's farmhouse right now. Unlevel floors, drafty windows, leaded windows. Supposedly has the first picture window in Cedar Rapids, according to the owners.

HOWEVER, I am displeased with most new houses because everything is done in such a damn hurry. All of them are the same, no charm, no character, no personality. Thin walls, cheap construction. Home builders don't take any pride in their work anymore. Based on what I've seen in new home construction, I'll be surprised if they last the 100 years that those farmhouses easily withstood.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Up here you have to have 10 acres or less and you can get a construction mortgage. Anything more then 10 acres and the banks wont deal with ya.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
All of them are the same, no charm, no character, no personality. Thin walls, cheap construction. Home builders don't take any pride in their work anymore. Based on what I've seen in new home construction, I'll be surprised if they last the 100 years that those farmhouses easily withstood.
I couldnt agree with ya more here. We have been looking at house plans, and rtms for quite awhile now, and sandi keeps asking me if I like this one or that one, and sometimes i cant really see a damn difference between them.

SOMETIMES you can find a good quality builder, but then it seems like they are charging around 50 dollars a square foot MORE then a "regular" builder.

Least that is how i find it up here right now.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
Ok, I'll bite. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having a brand new house that looks like a charming old farmhouse..but for some reason I am under the impression that I must outright own a piece of land before I can build on it. Is that true?
YES
For some reason my wife and I think the same way.We want to own the piece of land,work it the way we want then build on it.

Our idea is to build a 100yr. home.I mean in a hundred years someone says dam grandma and grandpa built one hell of a house.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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I say buy you a fixer-upper (whatever style you want)with a lot of land, get that draft test done, take a weekend and insulate it right and enjoy yourself til you get to the point where you MIGHT want to build your dream house with the proceeds from the fixer-upper...just my .02

And yes, its is definitely easier to complete one RE transaction for the land AND the house than it is to buy the land, find a contractor, blah blah blah...
You shouldn't have told me you have a degree in this $h*t, because now I'm gonna ask you questions..

How does a process like that happen? Would I buy the land, and try and estimate the cost of the build and wrap it up into that same mortgage? Or would it be two separate loans?

I thought that you couldn't build on land you didn't outright own. My thought being that if you foreclosed on the property, you'd owe both the builder AND the landowner, and how would that mess get sorted out?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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This picture just taken. We are 40 miles north of Houston Texas.

 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Ok. I know I'm younger than most everyone here, but my family owns a construction business and we do general contracting and home building.

If you want a house a specific way you need to have it built to your spec and not compromise. It might cost more and it might take longer, but you will have a WAY nicer finished product when you are done. Old houses can be nightmares. Especially if you find asbestos.

I already have a plan laid out for myself.

Once I'm out of college and I'm a civil engineer I'll invest in a decent sized chunk of land. I won't have any major responsibilities to anyone except paying the mortgage on that 30-40 acres. Eventually when I'm ready to build/buy a house I can either build on that land or sell that land and buy a house because by that time it will have appreciated in value.

In the meanwhile I'd have it for wheeling or hunting.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Thats kind of a tricky situation. I dont think most mortgage companies wouldnt like the idea of someones house on someone elses land if it was foreclosed on. Ive never bought a house and they cant go over ever possible situation in class. Ill see what I can dig up for ya. Im sure the other guys can tell you what they did a lot quicker!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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No clue about what contractors are charging in Iowa.......but it was at least $25 a sq. ft. more to BUILD a new house, then it was to buy one only a couple years old here. Prices in my city are completely insane though lol
You are looking at 100 bills here in MO. per sq.ft.

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This picture just taken. We are 40 miles north of Houston Texas.

Woke up to the same thing this morn. but there was ice under the snow, doors were froze shut on my truck.Good thing it was pluged in,18* this morn.

I guess you guys don't see that stuff much down there.LOL.
 
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