Cheetos Crew Build
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From: utica il
^^^^i tried to tell him that in a nice way on f/b. i know he's got good money in it, he said 16 iirc, but this truck isn't all that special and the only people that will be interested in it will be dirt merchant broke sumbishes who can't afford it.
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From: concord ca
Sorry Cheethoe but there is no chance in hell you'll get 10k. The way things are a 73-79 would have to be completely restored inside and out to get 10k regardless of mods or specs.
People are LUCKY to get half the price invested on trucks like ours. I think a more realistic price would be $2500-3000 and that's if every thing works.
People are LUCKY to get half the price invested on trucks like ours. I think a more realistic price would be $2500-3000 and that's if every thing works.
x2 eEven if i had the cash i only offer him 5 to7k and thats if it was finshed. chetto u may have 16k into it but iirc u said u have all that money it to. but only 2k of ur own money cause u sold ur old parts of some thing like that so if ur gona wait till u get 10k u gona have it for a long time
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From: Costa Mesa, CA
That's a bit overly harsh on the actualy price. Remember a 6bt motor can bring $1500 pretty easy just by itself. Add in the fact it's already installed in an old Ford (and a "rare" one - excuse the liars term, but most people believe that about the crews) and the price goes up a bit. If it was just basically clean & running, though still discolored/mismatched I'd think he could get $5k no problem. Not sue what going rate back in the land of no teeth is though. My price is for out here in hippyville....
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From: WV
I don't know the going rate around here either, but if memory serves, the cab was pretty much flawless as far as rust goes and that's unheard of around here. Particularly a crew cab of that era, so it should bring top coin for this area.
Not sure if any of us hillbillies have that kind of dough around here though
Not sure if any of us hillbillies have that kind of dough around here though
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I don't think its harsh...I think its realistic.
Think about it like this...
I've got 4k in my Dana 60 front. If I had a simple bone stock 351m in George I doubt I could get more than 2k for the whole truck. The sum of the parts do not equal the worth. Its just the way things are with projects.
I get that there is a "cool factor" for the Cummins, it being a crew cab and 4wd but cool doesn't always equate to desirable and ultimately valuable. From this build and others I've seen it doesn't appear to be a very difficult engine/trans swap and the combo is also unproven in the longevity/internal condition department.
At the end of the day I think the real reason he's tired of the truck is because he's been working on it for 5 years now and he's frustrated that it isn't finished. He also realizes he is a good ways away in the time, energy and extra cash departments from finishing it.
I truely hate it for him because Cheeto is one of my good friends on here but I'm surprised its taken as long as it has for him to become fed up and give in.
Think about it like this...
I've got 4k in my Dana 60 front. If I had a simple bone stock 351m in George I doubt I could get more than 2k for the whole truck. The sum of the parts do not equal the worth. Its just the way things are with projects.
I get that there is a "cool factor" for the Cummins, it being a crew cab and 4wd but cool doesn't always equate to desirable and ultimately valuable. From this build and others I've seen it doesn't appear to be a very difficult engine/trans swap and the combo is also unproven in the longevity/internal condition department.
At the end of the day I think the real reason he's tired of the truck is because he's been working on it for 5 years now and he's frustrated that it isn't finished. He also realizes he is a good ways away in the time, energy and extra cash departments from finishing it.
I truely hate it for him because Cheeto is one of my good friends on here but I'm surprised its taken as long as it has for him to become fed up and give in.
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From: utica il
kris, from what we have talked about i think cheeto has went from wanting to drive/wheel his rig to becoming a builder/tinkerer. i get it, but unless you have a name or some top shelf work being turned out you aren't going to break even, let alone turn a profit on something like this. told him anyone who wants an old cummins swap truck will either do it themselves or they will want a fully restoed high class rig. it's a great truck, but this is not the time to think about turning a profit on an old project rig. sorry jew boy mcgee.
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From: Across from the neighbors
Im not trying to turn a profit. Like i said ive got right at 16k in it and i want 10k. thats 6k lost right off the bat. If someone can build this with exactly the same parts i have in it for less than good for them. Taking any less than that for it would be stupid. Ill part it out if i have to. Everyone wants to pay good money for individual parts but then bitch about the price when you put them all into one truck and ask a price thats approiate of the total of said parts. Seem kind of ignorant to me.
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Its easier for 99.99% people to buy a D60 front and then build it to their specs (totaling 4k) than it is to pull out 4k at once for a built axle that is exactly what they want.
That's not ignorant, its common effin' sense.
That's not ignorant, its common effin' sense.
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From: Costa Mesa, CA
I don't think its harsh...I think its realistic.
Think about it like this...
I've got 4k in my Dana 60 front. If I had a simple bone stock 351m in George I doubt I could get more than 2k for the whole truck. The sum of the parts do not equal the worth. Its just the way things are with projects.
I get that there is a "cool factor" for the Cummins, it being a crew cab and 4wd but cool doesn't always equate to desirable and ultimately valuable. From this build and others I've seen it doesn't appear to be a very difficult engine/trans swap and the combo is also unproven in the longevity/internal condition department.
At the end of the day I think the real reason he's tired of the truck is because he's been working on it for 5 years now and he's frustrated that it isn't finished. He also realizes he is a good ways away in the time, energy and extra cash departments from finishing it.
I truely hate it for him because Cheeto is one of my good friends on here but I'm surprised its taken as long as it has for him to become fed up and give in.
Think about it like this...
I've got 4k in my Dana 60 front. If I had a simple bone stock 351m in George I doubt I could get more than 2k for the whole truck. The sum of the parts do not equal the worth. Its just the way things are with projects.
I get that there is a "cool factor" for the Cummins, it being a crew cab and 4wd but cool doesn't always equate to desirable and ultimately valuable. From this build and others I've seen it doesn't appear to be a very difficult engine/trans swap and the combo is also unproven in the longevity/internal condition department.
At the end of the day I think the real reason he's tired of the truck is because he's been working on it for 5 years now and he's frustrated that it isn't finished. He also realizes he is a good ways away in the time, energy and extra cash departments from finishing it.
I truely hate it for him because Cheeto is one of my good friends on here but I'm surprised its taken as long as it has for him to become fed up and give in.
As for the $4k axle & $2k truck - there's a reason people often take the good parts off of otherwise worthless trucks when selling. I have zero clue what "george" is but I know damn well I'd be taking that d60, putting a cheap d44 in and selling the d60 separately. I'm a penny pincher though and work my deals even more so than Quitter-toe does.
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My truck has been a non-stop never ending project since the day I bought it. Nature of the beast I guess. Some people enjoy tinkering and some need more instant gratification. In the dreidle spinners case I think he needs more reliable transportation quicker than he can finish this one. The problem with "projects" is that it can't be your primary means of transportation or it doesn't work.
4k axle/2k truck,
First off the frame, body and engine will rust to dust before I sell it so its really a moot point. I do believe that if I put it in as is condition with a good running 351 that I wouldn't get much for it. Its really a nothing special 79 250 with stuff. People don't care about stuff like gears, lockers, chromo shafts, trans mods and etc when they want to buy something.
I maintain that Cheet-hoe will be lucky to get 3k as a complete but unfinished truck. I do agree that 8-10k "could" be obtainable if he had time and patience enough to sell each piece separately.
4k axle/2k truck,
First off the frame, body and engine will rust to dust before I sell it so its really a moot point. I do believe that if I put it in as is condition with a good running 351 that I wouldn't get much for it. Its really a nothing special 79 250 with stuff. People don't care about stuff like gears, lockers, chromo shafts, trans mods and etc when they want to buy something.
I maintain that Cheet-hoe will be lucky to get 3k as a complete but unfinished truck. I do agree that 8-10k "could" be obtainable if he had time and patience enough to sell each piece separately.
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From: Virginia Beach
Or, most people are only looking for one particular thing out of the whole? The little interest in my truck has been because of the Dana 60 swap in the front. People could give a rats **** about the new motor, mods, and new tires. And, their offers reflect that. . .
Around my neck of the woods, I would say you might be able to get $4k as-is
Good luck man, I would stick to listing it on Ford truck related sites only as those people would appreciate more what you have and might pay more for the work you have done
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From: St. Louis
An old thread, i know, but I felt like chiming in. A huge problem with selling a project truck is that most people dont want to inherit someone else's problems. I would much rather buy a bone stock project than something half done. The purchaser has no idea the quality of work put into the project. Nice, stock trucks normally go for as much or more than well done project trucks around here.