Methanol/Water Injection
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From: stoneboro, pa
Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
...yea....
i rigged my wires on the injection system, it works and it didnt blow up!!!! woo-hoo!!!
ill redesign the wiring correctly when i have enough wire.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by bighoss550
i am sorry, tim for that post that looked as though it was towards you. it wasnt. u have never once put down anyones right to choice and thats very commendable. i hope i didnt damage any friendships. and i am DONE commenting on oil in any part of this forum!!!!!
i rigged my wires on the injection system, it works and it didnt blow up!!!! woo-hoo!!!
ill redesign the wiring correctly when i have enough wire.
i rigged my wires on the injection system, it works and it didnt blow up!!!! woo-hoo!!!
ill redesign the wiring correctly when i have enough wire.
How does it run?
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Hmmm 
I suppose that poses a situation. I had my tank mounted fairly high in a toolbox, and my pump mounted in my console, along with my control box and switch box. The only wires I had to extend were the ones from the boost switches, and 10 extra feet of braided line of which i ran under the carpet, through the steering shaft grommet and into the engine compartment; I ran the line from the tank through the vents in the back of the cab to the tank, and the other end under the carpet into the console.
As for your situation, my best advice would be to relocate your pump elsewhere, if at all possible. A seperate pump would probably work; however if i were you I would call Ken E. and ask him about it first. Do you have a toolbox on your truck?
I suppose that poses a situation. I had my tank mounted fairly high in a toolbox, and my pump mounted in my console, along with my control box and switch box. The only wires I had to extend were the ones from the boost switches, and 10 extra feet of braided line of which i ran under the carpet, through the steering shaft grommet and into the engine compartment; I ran the line from the tank through the vents in the back of the cab to the tank, and the other end under the carpet into the console.As for your situation, my best advice would be to relocate your pump elsewhere, if at all possible. A seperate pump would probably work; however if i were you I would call Ken E. and ask him about it first. Do you have a toolbox on your truck?
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by BBBxcursion
The pump is on the side of my AFE Air intake. Thanks for the suggestions on pump preasure-I'll change them tomarrow. One question though......I finalized the install after testing it. My pump in now higher than the tank, so I don't get fluid to it. The pump has some suction, but not enough. Can I just feed the injector pump with a WS fluid pump? There is no gravity to feed the injector pump anymore. Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
Another way is to pressureize the tank with boost pressure. Run a line that you tee off the map sensor line to the tank, seal the tank and then it will have 30 PSI or so in the tank to overcome the location.
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Most pumps won't pump air but if you bleed the air from the lines and put a loop in the line near the tank that is higher than the pump (to hold water against the pump)it may be able to develop enough suction to overcome the section of empty line then it may work fine where you have it. Just don't let it run out of water and it will stay primed.
Another way is to pressureize the tank with boost pressure. Run a line that you tee off the map sensor line to the tank, seal the tank and then it will have 30 PSI or so in the tank to overcome the location.
Another way is to pressureize the tank with boost pressure. Run a line that you tee off the map sensor line to the tank, seal the tank and then it will have 30 PSI or so in the tank to overcome the location.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Do you think my system would benefit from that?
It's what we used to do with the carburated blower and turbo cars with 7 psi mechanical fuel pumps. They had a small air bleed hole at the top of the fuel pump and we would tap that for an air line to supply blower pressure.
Your 100 PSI pump is only pumping a net 65 PSI because it has to overcome the 35 PSI boost enviroment that it is injecting in to!
Some kits have no pump at all and just use boost pressure alone.
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
If your tank will take the pressure! You need a check valve in the line to keep it from pumping water all the time.
Some kits have no pump at all and just use boost pressure alone.
Some kits have no pump at all and just use boost pressure alone.
Explain the check valve for me. How can it get past the solenoids when there closed?
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I think the tank will hold it; ill just have to drill out and plug the vent on the cap. If it explodes, it wont be the first thing on the truck to do so
Explain the check valve for me. How can it get past the solenoids when there closed?
Explain the check valve for me. How can it get past the solenoids when there closed?
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I kind of jury-rigged a mock c02 system with some brass pipe nipples, fittings, and the regulator into an X shaped sprayer assembly today. No nozzles or solenoids, just left the elbows where the nozzles would screw into open. Filled up the 2 of the 4 tanks at a paintball place in town for 3 bucks 
Screwed it in and opened the regulator...froze the carpet on the floor in my room cause i had it laying on it One tank sprayed for a good 30 seconds with no nozzles and the regulator wide open..i was surprised. This thing has to do SOMETHING when i get it on.
Screwed it in and opened the regulator...froze the carpet on the floor in my room cause i had it laying on it One tank sprayed for a good 30 seconds with no nozzles and the regulator wide open..i was surprised. This thing has to do SOMETHING when i get it on.
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
If your tank will take the pressure! You need a check valve in the line to keep it from pumping water all the time.
It's what we used to do with the carburated blower and turbo cars with 7 psi mechanical fuel pumps. They had a small air bleed hole at the top of the fuel pump and we would tap that for an air line to supply blower pressure.
Your 100 PSI pump is only pumping a net 65 PSI because it has to overcome the 35 PSI boost enviroment that it is injecting in to!
Some kits have no pump at all and just use boost pressure alone.
It's what we used to do with the carburated blower and turbo cars with 7 psi mechanical fuel pumps. They had a small air bleed hole at the top of the fuel pump and we would tap that for an air line to supply blower pressure.
Your 100 PSI pump is only pumping a net 65 PSI because it has to overcome the 35 PSI boost enviroment that it is injecting in to!
Some kits have no pump at all and just use boost pressure alone.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I kind of jury-rigged a mock c02 system with some brass pipe nipples, fittings, and the regulator into an X shaped sprayer assembly today. No nozzles or solenoids, just left the elbows where the nozzles would screw into open. Filled up the 2 of the 4 tanks at a paintball place in town for 3 bucks Screwed it in and opened the regulator...froze the carpet on the floor in my room cause i had it laying on it One tank sprayed for a good 30 seconds with no nozzles and the regulator wide open..i was surprised. This thing has to do SOMETHING when i get it on.
Screwed it in and opened the regulator...froze the carpet on the floor in my room cause i had it laying on it One tank sprayed for a good 30 seconds with no nozzles and the regulator wide open..i was surprised. This thing has to do SOMETHING when i get it on.Enough c02 sprayed in a closed room can kill you!
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
All of it will help some. You are gonna find which gadgets work in purportion to the amount of maintenance you have to provide.
Enough c02 sprayed in a closed room can kill you!
Enough c02 sprayed in a closed room can kill you!
Now that I know that Im glad Jenna wasnt in my bedroom when i did that... i emptied the whole bottle...but the doors were open 
As for maintenance, I have no life...nothing better to do besides screw with the truck