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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Well, I would turn the boost up. But the problem is that two turbos wont put out more than 120 lbs of boost. It will already be running at that. The only thing past that for power (or getting air for the power) is valvetrain. Nobody makes a tri-turbo kit yet

I just want something that gets lots of torque, gets it quick, and carries it to redline. That is my goal.

Oh, dont worry bout that. Im getting a new fuel pump too
dont believe all that guy says, those tuba's might suprise u!!! if they can reliably push 120,(which isnt all that much) then they will easily push 140-160.(now were talkin )

twins respond differently to egt than a single. u bump up the output of the big downstream, and the upstream goes up in 4th power.

ex. up the Dowstream 5psi and the output (engine) will see 18-20psi
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
What size orfice did you decide on?
teejet #8001 .031" ....plenty for my lowly stock motor.
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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I might mess with it later. Im sure your right, i would imagine it would push more. Its just the fact that for now, 1200 horses should be quite fine I just like the idea of having 1200 horsepower and not pushing the limit. That way, i have full reliabilty in something incredibly powerful. If i ever obtain a different daily driver, and this one turns into a drag truck in the future, i will certainly turn everything up. Its just the fact that for now, I will be driving it to school, and probably to college in Atlanta. I dont want to worry about it self destructing again Im already sick of that after one incident.
If i leave the boost at 120 lbs, the cam at nearly stock with maybe slightly increased lift, enough water to cool it down, and a medium sized propane and nitrous system, I will not have to worry about self-destruction (as long as i use my common sense and gauges) every time i light the bottles.
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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dont believe all that guy says, those tuba's might suprise u!!! if they can reliably push 120,(which isnt all that much) then they will easily push 140-160.(now were talkin )

twins respond differently to egt than a single. u bump up the output of the big downstream, and the upstream goes up in 4th power.

ex. up the Dowstream 5psi and the output (engine) will see 18-20psi
Please explain in detail what you are saying about the EGT on the TT motor. Im kind of lost there.
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I might mess with it later. Im sure your right, i would imagine it would push more. Its just the fact that for now, 1200 horses should be quite fine I just like the idea of having 1200 horsepower and not pushing the limit. That way, i have full reliabilty in something incredibly powerful. If i ever obtain a different daily driver, and this one turns into a drag truck in the future, i will certainly turn everything up. Its just the fact that for now, I will be driving it to school, and probably to college in Atlanta. I dont want to worry about it self destructing again Im already sick of that after one incident.
If i leave the boost at 120 lbs, the cam at nearly stock with maybe slightly increased lift, enough water to cool it down, and a medium sized propane and nitrous system, I will not have to worry about self-destruction (as long as i use my common sense and gauges) every time i light the bottles.
id be willing to bet u dont even use the n2o or propane very little if any!! 700 horse is like 1300ft lbs!!! there arent many places to use power like that!!

although the n2o will help spool the tuba's at part throttle, if thats how u plan to set it up. so would the water.

man ur gonna burn some peoples eyes w/ that exhaust

maybe u should consider stacks???
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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id be willing to bet u dont even use the n2o or propane very little if any!! 700 horse is like 1300ft lbs!!! there arent many places to use power like that!!

although the n2o will help spool the tuba's at part throttle, if thats how u plan to set it up. so would the water.

man ur gonna burn some peoples eyes w/ that exhaust

maybe u should consider stacks???
I might burn the propane quite a bit out on the open road. You are right about the nitrous, however, it will only be lit at the track or possibly at a redlight if someone is being a smartaleck.

Yes, the exhaust will be lethal. Im gonna be burning so much CRAP that it very well may come out in rainbow swirls As for stacks, i dont really know. I sort of like the look of that, im just not sure it will fit the physique of my truck. It is on a smaller chassis than some, and is not DRW. Mine has more of the look of a sportier and/or off-road look. I just dunno if stacks would go with that. Ill look into it though.
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Please explain in detail what you are saying about the EGT on the TT motor. Im kind of lost there.
sorry. the egt drops across a turbo, correct? so the second (big one) turbo sees a lower temp than the first. so it uses a "faster" turbine, and can spin faster than normal because of the reduced heat load. so u can up the waste gate to get a higher stage 1 boost, makin a much higher stage 2 psi w/out over loading either tuba!
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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sorry. the egt drops across a turbo, correct? so the second (big one) turbo sees a lower temp than the first. so it uses a "faster" turbine, and can spin faster than normal because of the reduced heat load. so u can up the waste gate to get a higher stage 1 boost, makin a much higher stage 2 psi w/out over loading either tuba!
Ok, that makes sense. Good explanation. How would the effects be if each turbo is mounted off each manifold seperately, instead of inline? Im not sure how he actually sets it up; ive never thought to ask
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Bob, any news on the launching idea you had a few days ago?
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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Ok, that makes sense. Good explanation. How would the effects be if each turbo is mounted off each manifold seperately, instead of inline? Im not sure how he actually sets it up; ive never thought to ask
a turbo on each bank would onlymake as much as ur stock setup cuz they would just be 1/2 as much on each side. he definately is selling a staged kit, because a single stage that puts out 120 would never be streetable.

i put together one for a ford tractor that pushes 65-70 under full load, but it doesnt do much unless u got it hammered pro-stock tractors push 130+ w/ a single, but if uve ever seen them pull, u can only imagine an engine like that in ur truck!!!!!
 
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nothing to do tomorrow, so the water is goin on...ill take as many pictures as feasable to show u guys how it will go on.


.....can't wait to blow mine up too.....
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Bob, any news on the launching idea you had a few days ago?
Oh no! What I was talking about is a combination of tires, traction bars, airbags and that sort of thing. It is something I'll have to work out at the drag strip. I am not going back to the strip until they reopen the Motorplex at Ennis. Sometime late July or earily August.
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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nothing to do tomorrow, so the water is goin on...ill take as many pictures as feasable to show u guys how it will go on.


.....can't wait to blow mine up too.....
Don't even talk like that!
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I might mess with it later. Im sure your right, i would imagine it would push more. Its just the fact that for now, 1200 horses should be quite fine I just like the idea of having 1200 horsepower and not pushing the limit. That way, i have full reliabilty in something incredibly powerful. .
Do you realize that the practical limit on what your driveline can handle in an empty truck is somewhere around 1200 ft. lb. of torque?
 
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Do you realize that the practical limit on what your driveline can handle in an empty truck is somewhere around 1200 ft. lb. of torque?
The majority of it has to be replaced...only the axles themselves will stay. Everything else has to go at that level.
 



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