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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Wow, that is tough news about Ferrari.

Fernando is my favorite and I would lke nothing more than to see him back on top again. I have no doubt about his skills and I think that given the right car, [or even a highly competitive car,] he would take it to the top.

Anybody heard about Massa?
Before his head injury he was as quick as anyone. But since his return he seems to have lost his edge. I was concerned about his job.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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WOW....there are some saying this is good for 9-11 MPH on the big end...that is huge.

This is monumental, now ALL must figure out how to do it, and Merc was working on the blown front wing last year...the final two races
It looks like some have already started:
Red Bull's Christian Horner says rivals will have to copy Mercedes wing concept - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner believes all of Mercedes' rivals will now be forced to copy its DRS-assisted rear wing F-duct, now that the FIA has confirmed it is happy with the concept.

Although some of Mercedes' rivals were unsure about the legality of the device, which helps boost straight-line speed even more when DRS is activated, the FIA's Charlie Whiting said on Thursday there were no issues.

And Horner, whose Red Bull Racing team is already well advanced in developing its own version, thinks that all teams must now invest in working on similar projects.

"I think the intent of the regulation was to eliminate the use of F-ducts," said Horner when asked by AUTOSPORT about the rear wing situation. "If a team has found a creative solution to circumnavigate that rule, then it is ultimately down to the FIA.

"Inevitably if a team has found a route around, then it is a route that other teams will have to follow - and obviously there is cost involved in that. The question [of legality] is better proposed to the FIA than to us, and we are not totally aware of what the other teams are doing at the moment."

Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn said he had no doubts that the design was completely within the regulations.

"We have a system and we don't believe there is anything contentious about it," he said when asked about it by AUTOSPORT. "Whether we are the first or not the first to have such a system I don't know. But what the system is, I am not going to explain.

"We are very comfortable with what we are doing, and everyone is looking to push the boundaries all the time. We will see over the next few months how it develops, but if teams feel it is an attractive idea that we have got, then it will proliferate on other cars. We don't see it anywhere else, or they've concluded it is not worth having - but I am not going to say what it is."

Brawn also said there was no way that F-ducts could have been banned, because there is no official definition of what one is.

"It is not a debate," he said. "What is an F-duct? People talk about an F-duct but I don't actually know what an F-duct is. And if you ask the FIA what is an F-duct they don't know. So, what we are doing we are completely comfortable and we believe the FIA is happy with, so we will see."
Originally Posted by Bdox
Wow, that is tough news about Ferrari.

Fernando is my favorite and I would lke nothing more than to see him back on top again. I have no doubt about his skills and I think that given the right car, [or even a highly competitive car,] he would take it to the top.

Anybody heard about Massa?
Before his head injury he was as quick as anyone. But since his return he seems to have lost his edge. I was concerned about his job.
Ferrari have never been shy about dumping an under performing (insert role here) on their ***, midseason if it has to be...

My guess is that they have bigger issues at hand currently (i.e. getting their car together so that Alonso can contend for the podium), and that once those are out of the way if Massa is still under-performing he will need to sharpen up his CV. And if it takes them too long to get their act together on the new car, Stefano Domenicali will be joining him.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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And more interestingly...


Heikki's new helmet...









ba-caaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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I think that the F duct idea has to do with the ducting being driver controlled or in any way other than static. The movable rear wing has been the only exception to that principle in a long time.

Again, I am expecting this season to be very competitive and full of surprises.

Was anyone else as amazed as I was when the fabulously successful Braun cars became so much less successful under the Mercedes umbrella?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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That entire Braun car thing does amaze me, I think they got it this year....and practice was too wet to tell us anything...that means one more practice then Q1
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Ferrari have never been shy about dumping an under performing (insert role here) on their ***, midseason if it has to be...

My guess is that they have bigger issues at hand currently (i.e. getting their car together so that Alonso can contend for the podium), and that once those are out of the way if Massa is still under-performing he will need to sharpen up his CV. And if it takes them too long to get their act together on the new car, Stefano Domenicali will be joining him.
They say....the new tub and all new exhaust will be ready and passed the crash test by May. I don't remember when a team did a new design tub in the middle of a year
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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Hear that sound? Ha HA! That's whats been missing!!! Warmed up the DVR this morning and am about half way thru 2nd. practice.

Not too sure about this higher nose? If it's close to being above the drivers side impact protection zone then that's a problem. I sure hope no one gets hurt, in my opinion, by a mistake in the build regulations. That and it's F'n ugly; McLaren had the right idea.

What is the protocol for releasing race info? I'm sure many record and watch at a later time. I guess on race day it's better to keep away from this thread till you have seen the race?

Kimi's "interview" excitement is hard to match......

Enjoy!!! The season has begun.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OldStyle
Hear that sound? Ha HA! That's whats been missing!!! Warmed up the DVR this morning and am about half way thru 2nd. practice.

Not too sure about this higher nose? If it's close to being above the drivers side impact protection zone then that's a problem. I sure hope no one gets hurt, in my opinion, by a mistake in the build regulations. That and it's F'n ugly; McLaren had the right idea.

What is the protocol for releasing race info? I'm sure many record and watch at a later time. I guess on race day it's better to keep away from this thread till you have seen the race?

Kimi's "interview" excitement is hard to match......

Enjoy!!! The season has begun.
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I would expect spoilers in here for sure.


I love Kimi's "no BS" interview style.


Interesting results with the Mercedes. But wonder if weather might have contributed a bit, they were quite quick last year in colder temps, and only in hot weather did the Ferrari really come alive. Melbourne can have a 60deg day that is raining turn into a 100deg sun... Sunday may be interesting.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Hey Less, the past recent years have gotten better and better in my view. True that the dominance shown by Vettel has not pleased me much but there has been great racing anyway. Also passing has increased.

Politics in racing really sux, but there is a lot of intrigue there too.

Personally I am very excited to have the season begin. The evolution of the various marques is rapid and unpredictable. Kimmy is back Michael is back. Some of the "backmarkers" are getting much better quickly. Lesser known drivers are coming into their own.

I fully expect a lot of good competition and some real surprises.

I can hardly wait.
I noticed on Speed Channel that the Australian GP will be live in a couple of nights.

I'm convinced....I will give it another shot....pick up some sodium reduced Lay's Potato Chips and pour myself a large glass of sodium reduced V8 Juice and settle down and watch.

One of the things that used to drive me nuts...but at the same time was actually enjoyable was what seemed to be a battle of wills...on and off the track.... between Jacques Villenenuve and Michael Schumacher.

They were individuals...colorful characters, larger than life dramatic personalities.... who brought a lot of excitement to F1.







 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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if you watch one race a year, make it Spa.
The track at Spa is wonderful, high speed job that goes back to when men were men and tracks were tracks.

I recall Jacques Villeneuve attempting to go flat out through the infamous fast sweeping corner (can't recall the name of the corner)....only to slide off backwards into the restraining wall @ around 180 mph + !
 
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Eau Rouge is the name of the corner, and yes, there has been some spectacular accidents there!


Not sure if anyone else caught qualifying in the AusGP, but if the race is half as good as qualifying, it should be an impressive season.
Lots of stories, Ferrari's lack of pace, Schumacher out qualifying Rosberg, Kimi being at the back of the pack, the Red Bulls being on the 3rd row, Lotus's pace not just being limited to testing etc. etc.



1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
3 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault
4 Michael Schumacher Mercedes
5 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault
6 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
7 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
8 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault
9 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes
10 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari
 
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Excellent! Couldn't ask for a better round 1!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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Well that race sucked...of course from my red cars point of view...however I am quiet proud of Fernando's effort to take a grocery kart and actually score points with it...imagine if he had a REAL race car .

Felipe sealed his fate today, he will not be driving a Red car next year
 
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Originally Posted by IB Tim
Well that race sucked...of course from my red cars point of view...however I am quiet proud of Fernando's effort to take a grocery kart and actually score points with it...imagine if he had a REAL race car .

Felipe sealed his fate today, he will not be driving a Red car next year
Alonso did well... was surprised with the Mercedes, their race pace was much less than their qualifying, and was dissapointed not to see Lotus fair better (although Kimi obviously laid off the women and vodka the night before and put in a good effort).
Great to see the competition has spiced up a lot, even the Williams was running well!
 
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