6.0 Short Block
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Laughing Gas
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From: Linden, Ca.
Well, got my power plant pulled out this weekend. Now to start stripping off the parts I am going to reuse, Ie front and rear covers, HPOP, oil cooler, heads.
On cams. Stage 1 or 2? I don't do any heavy towing. She is mainly a daily driver. FICM Repair tune in the ECM/PCM and I've got 155/stock injectors and 4" turbo back on a stock turbo. Thanks, B.
On cams. Stage 1 or 2? I don't do any heavy towing. She is mainly a daily driver. FICM Repair tune in the ECM/PCM and I've got 155/stock injectors and 4" turbo back on a stock turbo. Thanks, B.
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Laughing Gas
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Cool. I'm thinking a Stage 2 is the way to go. I called KDD today and talked about a short block. They are back logged four months. Supply chain issues and high demand. So I called B&R Head and Block in West Sacramento and they said they would get back to me with a price to rebuild my short block. I also called Asheville Engines and left a message since they were already closed for the day. As of this minute, it looks like J & K Engines is the best bet. I will D & K Engines tomorrow also. I did send an email to FICMRepair about a short block. Hopefully he will see it and respond. B.
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Laughing Gas
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On a side note, how durable are the A/C compressors on our trucks? I'm sure they are reliable, but since I have the boat anchor out, it would be a piece of cake to change it now. It's 16 years old with 190k on the odo and never been a problem. But I'm sure it won't last forever. Contemplating on changing it now. That thing would be a real PITA once the engine is back in. Thoughts? B.
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I still am running the original compressor at 232k miles. They are pretty good. I did replace the clutch though. Unfortunately, the OEM compressors are no longer available. @NPCCPARTSMAN just bought a compressor from Rock Auto for a good price.
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Laughing Gas
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Good to know the compressors are solid. I think I should, at the least, change the orifice tube. And, depending on how it looks, decide on anything else to replace. The condenser is looking a little ruff so I may change it anyway. I have the tools so I think a new clutch would be wise also. I looked at Rock Auto for the A/C components. Not bad on the prices. B.
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Laughing Gas
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Talked to Asheville today. They have a one week build-out time frame right now. They don't deck their blocks. And most have a .020 or .030 overbore. They do a new billet Stage 2 came for 800 bucks. Round trip freight is 640 bucks. But only a 12 month warranty. Engine comes undressed. SO I will have to reuse my front and rear covers along with the oil pan. Which means I need to get the seal installer tools for the front and rear main seals. Added expense? Hum....
I sent a message to Swamps Motorsports about their short blocks yesterday. Have not yet received a response. Need to call DK Engines. The B & R Head and Block in West Sacramento has not returned my two calls asking for pricing. How hard can it be? Really? SMH. B.
I sent a message to Swamps Motorsports about their short blocks yesterday. Have not yet received a response. Need to call DK Engines. The B & R Head and Block in West Sacramento has not returned my two calls asking for pricing. How hard can it be? Really? SMH. B.
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Laughing Gas
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Nope, not a peep out of Ed. Yeah, that was one reason KDD has a four month back log. Parts shortages. Asheville told me they are well stocked up on parts. Although, I prolly should not say that until AFTER I get a short block(LOL)? B.
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You should ask Ashville what they would want for a short block minus a cam. They want a lot of money for the addition of a stage 2 cam. While I have a Stage 2 Colt, the reality is I only need a Stage 1 since I'm not an HP guy in a diesel truck, and that should also be on your radar. Stage 1 brings an acceleration response like the 2003 cam; they have the same lobe separation. But either Stage 1 or Stage 2 from someone like Colt is a good option. You would have to press on the gear (need access to a hydraulic press), but even taking the Ashville stock cam and flipping it on eBay would be a less expensive option. As a short block without the covers, swapping a cam is really, really easy.
I don't get why they don't deck their blocks. They could take a 0.001" cut and be fine. Stock decks, for most people, seem to be fine as far as flatness; they don't move. It's when they get power abraded that there are issues.
I don't get why they don't deck their blocks. They could take a 0.001" cut and be fine. Stock decks, for most people, seem to be fine as far as flatness; they don't move. It's when they get power abraded that there are issues.
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On a side note, how durable are the A/C compressors on our trucks? I'm sure they are reliable, but since I have the boat anchor out, it would be a piece of cake to change it now. It's 16 years old with 190k on the odo and never been a problem. But I'm sure it won't last forever. Contemplating on changing it now. That thing would be a real PITA once the engine is back in. Thoughts? B.