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Old Sep 19, 2021 | 03:27 PM
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Yeah, I’ve got no plausible technical explanation for that.

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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mcmurm
My F-350 Platinum CCLB with the 6.7 came with a 12,400lb GVWR, which helps push the payload up a little over 3k. I'm not sure if the F-250 CCLB with the HCTT will have a 12,400 GVWR, so your payload may not be as high as you hoped for. In addition, if you don't have the 12,400 GVWR, you'll also be missing out on hydro-boost brakes. Not sure how much that means to you.

The F-250 with HCTT vs. F-350 are extremely similar, but there are a few differences. Not trying to diminish your new truck, I'm sure it will do everything an F-350 can do.

Edit: Just re-read your message and if you're ancitipating 1800 lbs. payload, then I think you're spot on given my statements are true. If your F-250 with HCTT does come with a 12,400 GVWR, then I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with a higher payload.
So in my original response, I guessed 3012 lb payload on my F250 with 6.7… turns out I was wrong, it’s 3016! Lol… pretty good guess I’d say!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
So in my original response, I guessed 3012 lb payload on my F250 with 6.7… turns out I was wrong, it’s 3016! Lol… pretty good guess I’d say!
This basically the truck I ordered. F350,CCLB,6.7,4X4,5th wheel prep, 12,400 gvwr.


 
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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Only item I would disagree with here is the issue of brakes. I'm not sure why the brakes would be any more overworked than on a 11500GVWR SWR F350, as they have the same braking system.
what makes you believe that?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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Tire options also play into the sticker game. The truck I had ordered with the A/T tire option would have been an 11,300 GVWR, the truck I ended up buying with the base A/S tires is 11,000 with a 300 lb reduction in the stickered rear axle capacity. This week it will be getting Tremor tires 285/75-18 with the 4080 lb load rating instead of the stock tires 3415 lb rating. Worrying about the stickers is wasted effort....
 
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 11:38 PM
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Not so much a frustration as minor confusion. I weighed my truck and it came up almost exactly 7,000 lbs. The max GVWR is 11,300 so the max payload should be 4,300. However, the tire and loading sticker says not to exceed 3,877. So where did the other 400 pounds go?



 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Midas13
Not so much a frustration as minor confusion. I weighed my truck and it came up almost exactly 7,000 lbs. The max GVWR is 11,300 so the max payload should be 4,300. However, the tire and loading sticker says not to exceed 3,877. So where did the other 400 pounds go?


That is a little confusing, I would expect more often people find the truck scales a little heavier if anything. You had a full tank of fuel?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 05:32 AM
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There must be a bed structural limitation

my 2029 f-450 DRW 4x4 6.7 has a gvwr of 14k. Truck weights a little over 9k. Payload is in the low 4K range.


you would think with dual commercial tires, m300 axle, 4:30 rear, there would be a wider gap between an f-450 and the most suspension equipped f-250 or f-350 which only has single tires and m275 axle.



 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
There must be a bed structural limitation

my 2029 f-450 DRW 4x4 6.7 has a gvwr of 14k. Truck weights a little over 9k. Payload is in the low 4K range.


you would think with dual commercial tires, m300 axle, 4:30 rear, there would be a wider gap between an f-450 and the most suspension equipped f-250 or f-350 which only has single tires and m275 axle.
WOW, Fritz…….you really got ahead of everyone here! How did ya pull that off? Pics of the 2029 please! Did they go all electric yet? LOL
 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
There must be a bed structural limitation

my 2029 f-450 DRW 4x4 6.7 has a gvwr of 14k. Truck weights a little over 9k. Payload is in the low 4K range.


you would think with dual commercial tires, m300 axle, 4:30 rear, there would be a wider gap between an f-450 and the most suspension equipped f-250 or f-350 which only has single tires and m275 axle.
There would be if Ford were not worried about the 14K limit.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
WOW, Fritz…….you really got ahead of everyone here! How did ya pull that off? Pics of the 2029 please! Did they go all electric yet? LOL
typo

2019 not 2029

a 2029 electric SD would probally not gvwr very good due to battery weight

 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
typo

2019 not 2029

a 2029 electric SD would probally not gvwr very good due to battery weight
Yeah…..figured that. Just busting your chops. I think the 14K GVW is so they can keep it a class 3? Maybe. What are the actual axle weight ratings.
I know on my 350 duallies the rears were like 9900 and the front was 6000 for an actual load rating of 15900. IIRC.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
There must be a bed structural limitation

my 2029 f-450 DRW 4x4 6.7 has a gvwr of 14k. Truck weights a little over 9k. Payload is in the low 4K range.


you would think with dual commercial tires, m300 axle, 4:30 rear, there would be a wider gap between an f-450 and the most suspension equipped f-250 or f-350 which only has single tires and m275 axle.
My 21' SCLB 350 has a rating of 4741 lbs. It has the m275 axle.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
My 21' SCLB 350 has a rating of 4741 lbs. It has the m275 axle.

my point exactly

m275 with single light duty tires vs m300 with dual commercial medium duty tires.

 
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
Yeah…..figured that. Just busting your chops. I think the 14K GVW is so they can keep it a class 3? Maybe. What are the actual axle weight ratings.
I know on my 350 duallies the rears were like 9900 and the front was 6000 for an actual load rating of 15900. IIRC.

same

6000 in the front, 9900 in the rear

 
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