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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:13 PM
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You are stuck with 6,340lbs rear GAWR with the F250 6.7 and F250/350 SRW 6.2. Its the axle and surpassing that can cause premature wear and failure. Its on the white sticker.
The Sterling 10.5 axle has a GAWR of 9,750lbs.


Think about it. The payload on my truck is almost 4,300lbs. Add that to the weight of the truck, and I'd be at or over your 6,340# figure. Ford isn't that dumb. 6,340# sounds like the tire ratings on the rear axle to me...




 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:20 PM
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The Sterling 10.5 axle has a GAWR of 9,750lbs.


Think about it. The payload on my truck is almost 4,300lbs. Add that to the weight of the truck, and I'd be at or over your 6,340# figure. Ford isn't that dumb. 6,340# sounds like the tire ratings on the rear axle to me...
Ford has the sticker at I believe 6340 on the 6.2 gas F250/F350 SRW and F250 6.7 diesel. Take a look but every one I’ve seen has that rating. On that same thought you couldn't put 4,300 lbs on your hood.

What it’s capable of and what they rate it to are 2 different things.

With that said and no meaning insults I don’t understand the F350 SRW configuration. You can pretty much pull most 5th wheels you should be pulling with a SRW with an F250, in my opinion.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:24 PM
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Ford has the sticker at I believe 6340 on the 6.2 gas F250/F350 SRW and F250 6.7 diesel. Take a look but every one I’ve seen has that rating. On that same thought you couldn't put 4,300 lbs on your hood.

What it’s capable of and what they rate it to are 2 different things.

With that said and no meaning insults I don’t understand the F350 SRW configuration. You can pretty much pull most 5th wheels you should be pulling with a SRW with an F250, in my opinion.
They are going to rate the axle at the lowest common denominator.

The tires.

They are covering their butts legally.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:31 PM
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The analysis described in this thread is exactly why I was disappointed to see that the 2017 F350 SRW would be way over its rated capacity with a family of 5, dog, firewood, hitch, and a 2600# pin. I sure enjoy my F450 that resulted from going over this carefully before making such a big purchase.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:34 PM
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They are going to rate the axle at the lowest common denominator.

The tires.

They are covering their butts legally.
Agree on covering butt but I think the tires surpass that rating.

Where did you see that higher rating on the 10.5 Sterling?
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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A friend of mine has a F250 diesel with a payload of 1,920 pounds. That is exactly 100 pounds more than my previous F150 .. . . . . . . .
More important than the numbers, at that payload capacity how does the truck feel and handle. I bet quite noticeably different.

I dont like comparing f150s to the Superduty's, for the simple reason tha it's not a Superduty. Sure you can get an f150 that has similar capabilities on paper but that only matters if you are shopping for an f150. I haven't looked but imagine you can get a RAM 1500 and maybe even a Cheby with payload that would rival a 250. The bottom line is, if someone wants a Superduty, know what your intended use is and what the capabilities or limitations are before buying.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:54 PM
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Agree on covering butt but I think the tires surpass that rating.

Where did you see that higher rating on the 10.5 Sterling?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_axle_weight_rating

http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/tr...nch-axle-tips/

Just a couple for now...gotta head off to work
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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Interesting. 9750lbs it is from 1999 on. Looks like they rate it to 26,000 GCWR.

More than good for me.... glad I got this crap wimpy F250 diesel.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
The Sterling 10.5 axle has a GAWR of 9,750lbs.


Think about it. The payload on my truck is almost 4,300lbs. Add that to the weight of the truck, and I'd be at or over your 6,340# figure. Ford isn't that dumb. 6,340# sounds like the tire ratings on the rear axle to me...




Hmmmm. So what's the manufacturer rating (not the Ford rating) on my 2017 F350 DRW? I gotta go look up which axle it is again. Last time I tried to find that data, no one had it published yet.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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The gas F350 which comes with the same Sterling 10.5" as the F250 is rated on the sticker as rear GAWR of 7230 not 6340. Ford just changes the listed rating. Here's two fairly identical trucks. Same tires, axles, etc.

https://www.brandonford.com/vehicle-...fl-id-29483206

https://www.brandonford.com/vehicle-...fl-id-29879810





I will also add that both SRW trucks have the same braking system.

 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:16 PM
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but.. one has a 10,000 rating and one has a 11,300 rating...

in many states you pay extra taxes etc and have different rules for >10,000 pounds GVWR

so, the manufacturers make a labeled product to fit.. its LABELED at 10,000 lbs..
doesn't matter what is under the covers.. the law doesn't CARE.. is it 10,000 lbs or less... then rating A and 10,001 and above is rating B

and in some states dually is ALWAYS commercial (OBVIOUSLY!)

anyhow...
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:27 PM
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How do you turn a light duty truck into a medium duty truck.....trade it in of course
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by h20camper
The gas F350 which comes with the same Sterling 10.5" as the F250 is rated on the sticker as rear GAWR of 7230 not 6340. Ford just changes the listed rating. Here's two fairly identical trucks. Same tires, axles, etc.

https://www.brandonford.com/vehicle-...fl-id-29483206

https://www.brandonford.com/vehicle-...fl-id-29879810





I will also add that both SRW trucks have the same braking system.

Looks like it’s got different rear tires, and different rear springs. That’s probably the difference in the ratings.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:40 PM
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Here is a 350 gas with 6340, but it apparently has the 10,000 registration derate. Maybe I’m only seeing those and quite honestly never look at gas 350s unless they are at auction.



 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
How do you turn a light duty truck into a medium duty truck.....trade it in of course
This makes sense.
 
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