I ordered a harness using the vin I have and parts should be here in 3 days so fingers crossed.

Also the FU2Z-14S411-DA already superseded to the FU2Z-14S411-DB, which I already have, back to the drawing board.

Sarge

 

OK Sarge261, ask and you will receive. We're determined to make this work. I yanked the c-pillar cover once again, pulled the headliner down just enough to see, and can report the following:

My current inter-connecting CHMSL harness, has part # HC3T-14A411-EB on a tag. Useless (so far), as that number doesn't come up...

My cab's C-pillar harness feeding the CHMSL inter-connecting harness, has 6 wires;
2 - 18ga - Black, Blue/Red (I'm guessing on wire gauge for all)
4 - 22ga - Purple, Black/Yellow, Black, White

My CHMSL Harness has the following;
3 - 22ga - Purple, White, Black (Not sure of order, but...Cargo Lite 12V+, 3rd Brake 12V+, and Ground)

This means there are 3 remaining wires in my cab C-pillar harness NOT feeding the CHMSL harness;
2 - 18ga - Black, Blue/Red
1 - 22ga - Black/Yellow
These MUST be for the camera...

I'm looking at trying to make this work two different ways:

1. Find the proper CHMSL/Camera cable. This would be easiest..dah!
2. Add the missing wires to my existing CHMSL cable, and replace the upper connector where it meets the CHMSL/Camera pigtail (using Molex 19419-0001, shown below)

#2 would require sourcing the CORRECT connector, which I've spent hours on already between the Ford Workshop Manual, Molex website, Mouser, and Newark websites.
#2 would also requiring purchasing the correct crimping tool(s), pins, etc, which I'm in the process of determining if its financially worth it

I've determined the connector that Sarge261 showed coming off his CHMSL/Camera pigtail, as being a Molex Receptacle 19418-0001, found at Newark -
Newark.com



The male version is Molex Connector 19419-001, which would be required to retrofit my existing cable;


Obviously, there are no pins inserted yet.



Below is the connector from the inter-connection cable between the C-pillar harness, and the pigtail on the CHMSL/Camera. Now, to do some more digging to see what this connector is, then decide if I want to make and entire new cable. Heck if this all works, I could probably sell the cables if they can't be sourced!

As usual, there are NO markings on this connector.

And we trudge on..............................

 

That's really odd since my Workshop manual list both as separate pigtails...???

And here's a little Super Duty trivia - Our trucks use over 1000 different connectors, per the Workshop Manual. Takes a while to locate the correct one...

 

Alrighty. So, we can see by Sarge261's picture, and my picture, what the two connectors LOOK like.

Looking at this drawing, we can now identify the two connectors in question. C9125, and C3047, which reside at opposite ends on the harness feeding the CHMSL w/camera.


From the connector diagrams, C9125 (which I posted earlier before i started to figure out the Workshop Manual):




...and C3047. IF making our own cable, we'd use the "FEMALE" illustration.

 

In theory 14A411 should be the complete harness, I do know for a fact that WPT-1415 (Pigtail) is the correct pig tail for the CHMSL end of the harness. If I get the wrong harness and the correct number of pins is in it I'm determined to make it work, even if I have to figure out what I need to buy to connect to the truck side.

When I gave my parts guy the pig tail part numbers from the diagram he told me it was superseded. It'll be a few days before I can post back but that will give me time to lower my head liner and get my C-pillar molding off.

Any tips or tricks I should know about to do the headliner Fatfender? I do appreciate your help spurring this project along, Ive got quite a few bucks wrapped up in it now but I'm determined to make it work now!

Sarge

 

All I did was release the C-pillar and reach up to pull the headliner down just enough at the back corner to see up under it. To go farther, likely need to remove the dome light. Here are instructions someone else posted for headliner removal. Skip to to the appropriate step since you're not removing it entirely.

 

It the part number of this lamp & camera HC3Z*13A613*D?

 

Yes sir that is the part number I bought

 

Thanks,

I don't need to remove it entirely but I need more room so I can run my antenna.

Sarge

 

Ok so then HC3Z*14A411*D is the correct harness. My dealer was very persistant that we had the correct harness, but he agreed we were missing the correct pigtail. So, we order another harness assembly and it had the additional pigtail on it. The original harness must of been miss packaged.

 

Can you post the pictures when you get the harness?

 

Yes. We need this ^^^^^^

Was considering just making a cable as the connectors are cheap. Problem is the special Molex crimper 63811-4800, is nearly $350.

 

I should have my harness Monday or Tuesday....part 2 to this project is going to be figuring out if the wiring for the switch is behind the trim bezel near the radio and then seeing if it can actually be viewed on the screen....we're oh so close!

Sarge

 

I'm watching this closely! Kudos to you guys for pioneering this effort!!

 

Yes, not a problem. Was planning on posting them as soon as I got home. The middle of the five connectors is the one for the CHMSL...