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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 08:35 AM
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Just check the Ford parts site and there are several different camera modules (image processing units) depending on if you just have the rear camera, rear camera + 3rd brake light camera, the external trailer camera option, or the towing vision system (360 view). If you have just the rear camera from the factory then you only to have to swap the module to be able to add the 3rd brake light camera. The generic part number is 19H405, and is not cheap either.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Roly Poly
Just check the Ford parts site and there are several different camera modules (image processing units) depending on if you just have the rear camera, rear camera + 3rd brake light camera, the external trailer camera option, or the towing vision system (360 view). If you have just the rear camera from the factory then you only to have to swap the module to be able to add the 3rd brake light camera. The generic part number is 19H405, and is not cheap either.

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Hmmm. Lookie what I found:
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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 10:32 AM
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I don't believe your getting a complete assembly. I Googled your part number (which is similar to the one I had), and they all come up with just a camera (I'd assume) for $75 - $80. Changing the suffix letter, bring up different cameras. I THINK the CHMSL + Camera should be closer to a couple hundred.

This description from FordPartsGiant.com doesn't even mention the High Mount Stop (I did not highlight or bold any of the below, its all cut-n-paste, so no emphasis intended):

Ford Part No.: HC3Z-19G490-D

CAMERA - PARKING
Your Price: $76.24Retail Price: $109.53You Save: $33.29Qty: ADD TO CART
This part fits the following vehicle options:
  • Fit Note: Rear Video Camera And Prep Kit
  • Production Date: 07/2016-
I looked up a used 2017 SD on Cars.com that included the camera in the CHMSL, used that VIN on TASCA Parts, and it came up with the 13A613.
I think the middle digits need to be 13A613. Like this - https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...ed-hc3z13a613d
I was standing at the parts counter with the parts guy, we looked it up together. If its not a complete assembly Ill send it back. The picture and description from the parts guys computer described it as a complete assembly with camera. We shall see I guess. I'll keep everyone posted for sure.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Roly Poly
Just check the Ford parts site and there are several different camera modules (image processing units) depending on if you just have the rear camera, rear camera + 3rd brake light camera, the external trailer camera option, or the towing vision system (360 view). If you have just the rear camera from the factory then you only to have to swap the module to be able to add the 3rd brake light camera. The generic part number is 19H405, and is not cheap either.

Good luck,
Roly
So I think I may of found it. Does HC3Z*19H405*F seem correct? I have the 8" sync screen with the camera in the tailgate only. My dealer told me I would need HC3Z*13A613*D, Lamp Assy w/ camera & HC3Z*14A411*D, wire harness. I wonder if that harness will plug into the module... I have a 17 F-350 Ulitmate Lariet package,
 
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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 08:01 PM
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I too have a lariat, but didn't opt for the ultimate package because I didn't want the sun roof. It amazes me that there'd be so many choices for that camera. I would think if you have the premium stereo they'd all be the same. Oh well if it doesn't work it'll be an expensive mistake on my part...not like I haven't been down that road before.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 08:06 PM
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Rage on Sarge!!! I’m wondering how this will work! The only thing that would concern me would be the inablility to switch between the tailgate camera and the CHSML camera since you wouldn’t have the button on the dash.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
I too have a lariat, but didn't opt for the ultimate package because I didn't want the sun roof. It amazes me that there'd be so many choices for that camera. I would think if you have the premium stereo they'd all be the same. Oh well if it doesn't work it'll be an expensive mistake on my part...not like I haven't been down that road before.

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Please keep us all posted, as I'm sure we are all scratching ours heads on this one...
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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Rage on Sarge!!! I’m wondering how this will work! The only thing that would concern me would be the inablility to switch between the tailgate camera and the CHSML camera since you wouldn’t have the button on the dash.
I think, but I'm not 100% sure it can be done through the touch screen on the stereo.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Ok,

Parts did show up today, the Lamp HC3Z-13A613-D is a LED lamp with Camera. I'm not sure if the lamp portion will even work with my truck as I don't have LED's that's the first part of the bad news, the second part is the harness number FU2Z-14S411-DB is just a pig tail not the entire harness that would go between the CHSML and the connector on the C-Pillar.

I'm going to plug the lamp in and see if it works and go from there.

Update...The plugs aren't even close, back to the drawing board.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
Ok,

Parts did show up today, the Lamp HC3Z-13A613-D is a LED lamp with Camera. I'm not sure if the lamp portion will even work with my truck as I don't have LED's that's the first part of the bad news, the second part is the harness number FU2Z-14S411-DB is just a pig tail not the entire harness that would go between the CHSML and the connector on the C-Pillar.

I'm going to plug the lamp in and see if it works and go from there.

Update...The plugs aren't even close, back to the drawing board.

Sarge
Well, that sucks all the way around. When I Googled the harness part number, I came upon this: Motorcraft Pigtail Kits ID Guide
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
Ok,

Parts did show up today, the Lamp HC3Z-13A613-D is a LED lamp with Camera. I'm not sure if the lamp portion will even work with my truck as I don't have LED's that's the first part of the bad news, the second part is the harness number FU2Z-14S411-DB is just a pig tail not the entire harness that would go between the CHSML and the connector on the C-Pillar.

I'm going to plug the lamp in and see if it works and go from there.

Update...The plugs aren't even close, back to the drawing board.

Sarge
I just ordered HC3Z*14A411*D, I should have it tomorrow. I will post pics once I received it. Hopefully this will give us all some light at the end of tunnel..
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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Its all good, I am able to return it if its in opened. I'm more than determined to make this work now...its got me that mad. So I had to go to the dealer and pick up some parts for an 07 I have in the shop and I decided to check out what was on the lot. Low and behold there was a 17 F350 Lariat with just the tail gate and CHMSL camera on it, no LED lights, not trailer bundle just those 2 camera. I snapped a picture of the VIN and also the dash, it looks as though you guys are correct and the camera selector button will need to be added as well. Here are the pictures of the harness repair kit that came, I didn't bother to take pictures of the high mount lamp assembly as I figured everyone knew what the look like. The new lamp with camera has a 8 or 10 pin connector compared to the 4 pin that's in my truck. Also the head liner will need to be lowered in the back in order to unplug the connector, there just isn't enough room to get a finger or anything in there, and the wire isn't long enough they way they mount it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg McMahon
I just ordered HC3Z*14A411*D, I should have it tomorrow. I will post pics once I received it. Hopefully this will give us all some light at the end of tunnel..
It'll be interesting to see what version of the lamp you will get. I also ordered the smoked bug deflector with the recessed letters that everyone says is no longer available. (off topic I know)

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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New bezel and switch apparently?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 08:04 AM
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Yes Ill send the photo of the bezel in the truck I found with just the 2 cameras, I'm hoping that the info-tainment system isn't part of the bezel.

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