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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Why a coolant filter can damage your engine?

I'm removing the coolant filter kit mod from my 6.0 engine.
Why?

Because the learning curve isn't finished.
2. Coolant filters have become all the rage, so much so that every diesel shop seems to make their own kit now and there is video after video on YouTube about how people found "casting sand" in their filter when they cut it open. What these people don't realize is that it's NOT casting sand! What that miracle coolant filter has removed from their cooling system is the silicates that have fallen out of suspension because they are not taking care of their coolant. They have filtered out and removed a critical component of the coolant...their cavitation erosion protection is gone and more than likely the are driving around on acidic coolant because they think that "life is good" since they have a filter. Coolant filters were originally developed for the "over the road" trucking industry...and they were NOT designed to be filters in the respect of removing debris. They were originally designed as a way to automatically manage coolant pH (additives). The "filter" was little more than a screen that was full of pellets, and those pellets would dissolve over time and keep the levels of certain additives at the right level, which kept the pH at the right level. When you consider how many miles an OTR truck covers in a year, compared to how many miles your average diesel pickup covers in a year, you can see that some "automated" maintenance for the OTR truck is very important to both engine longevity as well as profitability (less time spend actually working on the truck). Moral of this story...coolant filter DO NOT replace the need to PROPERLY MAINTAIN the coolant! You had better still be testing the coolant and putting in additive!
That said. . .how many people have demonstrated that the "casting sand" is not a silicate? I always thought that sand was silicate. . .
Anyway. . .it was posted on another diesel forum.
If you Google search parts of the quote then you can probably find the original article.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Not to say I believe this position is correct but I run a filter and a silicate free coolant.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Well then it's a good thing I've never found anything in my filters...Ever.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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I install the coolant filter so my oil cooler won't clogged up...
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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It all sounds good in theory. But without testing of the filter contents, its all just internet chatter to me.

Same thing with the OTR trucks. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I have never seen a pH testing kit at any of the big truck stops.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Even IF and that is a big IF that is the case the resulting
sand is going to get stuck somewhere in the system. The place
that it will get stuck will be the oil cooler and then block the flow
without a filter.

The ideal way to do this would be to use a filter and test the coolant
with the test strips and add the needed packages or replace as indicated.
by the test strip.

Sean
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Just what I thought.....confusion between the SCA filters and the non-SCA filters that most people use with silicate free coolant.

Oh well....this should be fun to watch....
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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Silicate drop out (or precipitate) is generally described as a gooey jel in most of the stuff I read on the subject. Dang, back to the woodshed to study coolants some more.
 
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You must Use a NON CHARGED Coolant Filter or YES You will WREAK the Coolant PH levals

Iv seen Pics of Both "Silicate Dropout or Gooey SLime really" and "Casting sand" They are Definatly Different Looking

Mine was Full of Casting Sand Look in my Pics I cut open the oil cooler


IMO the Research has Been DONE!!!

As long as its Done CORRECTLY the Coolant Filter MOD has Proven its Weight in GOLD IMHO
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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I'm confused by that. It says that the coolant filter has removed the silicates that have fallen out of suspension due to not maintaining the coolant properly. So they're saying that you WANT a silicate coolant? Silicate is sand. Sand is what's been clogging up the oil coolers. It doesn't make sense to me as to why almost all of the long-life coolants these days are silicate free when this person says you need the silicates? Totally lost here. Also, this is the first time I've EVER heard of anyone saying a coolant filter is bad. I think what's being confused is the difference between an SCA and a non-SCA filter. Also, I agree with Benny. The stuff that was in my filter was for sure sand. Silicate drop out looks quite a bit different than sand does.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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Well, anyone running a coolant filter will be smart enough to change coolant a minimum of every two years anyway. Thus, it is a moot point.

However, a coolant filter will not remove the silicate protection from silicate free coolant ...... Because there is no silicate in the coolant. Since I'm running a silicate free coolant, I don't think I should worry.

Silly Rabbit.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Don't forget that International does not use Silicate coolant.

End of Story.

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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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And next week there will be a thread about why I'm reinstalling a coolant filter, with supporting quoted material.
 
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